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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-17-2012, 08:14 AM
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"87 or 100 octane fuel"

Please let's stay away from this madness and I admit I am one of the subjects who threw oil in the fire...

In order to give an answer though, Blacksix has mentionned it somewhere some 2-3 months ago after having spoken with Luthier:
They do not model the engine so accurately in order to be able to do adjustments of the octanes.
Instead, they create the flight model of a specific airplane according to the historic performance data they have in their posession.

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Historic information shows that the RAF fighters used 100 Octane fuel and the engine was designed to use it and that the aircraft were modified accordingly at the factory and front line. Therefore, I would have thought that we could reasonably expect historical aircraft performance data should be used to model the extra boost available when the boost cut-out was used for the RAF fighters using 100 Octane fuel in CloD.
Why the boost cut-out operation does not work properly and why we appear to have less boost available than was the case in history with 100 Octane fuel is a puzzle to me. To read so many combat reports by veterans about how they used the boost cut-out and the surge of extra power they obtained and not get that experince in CloD has been very dissapointing to say the least.
Dev team, if you are reading this, please may we have red fighter performance and aircraft specification for BoB as per the historic record. But surely we should not have to ask for this, it should be a given. This sim has been so long in the making and has been released for some time now, but still we do not have properly accurate historic flight models for most aircraft; as a customer, I find this amazing. I am a big fan of CloD, but it is starting to get me down, particularly when I read so many threads on this forum with rude remarks to other people and a distinct lack of objectivity. Surely we can all adopt a more reasonable approach for the future.
A big thank you to the dev team for this flight sim and for trying to get things correct for aircraf from so many different countries and pushing the boundries of combat flight activity for the WWII era. Good luck with the next patch.

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Old 04-17-2012, 08:21 AM
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A little bird told me that Luthier is being educated about 100 octane performance as we speak. I am confident we'll get it purely because there are many people who have made a lot of effort in researching it and will pursue it.

For the record I would back any similar case for the Luftwaffe, this is about history and fact, not gaming.
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:50 AM
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A little bird told me that Luthier is being educated about 100 octane performance as we speak. I am confident we'll get it purely because there are many people who have made a lot of effort in researching it and will pursue it.

For the record I would back any similar case for the Luftwaffe, this is about history and fact, not gaming.
Good to hear!

As a 10-year-old lad in 1963 I read Al Deere's "Nine Lives" and learned back then about 100 octane fuel and overboost. This was repeated and reinforced reading many dozens of accounts, books, documents, etc. in the intervening years to the present day. And Luthier, Head Developer for Cliffs of Dover, is just being educated about 100 octane fuel.......NOW?????

Boggles the mind......
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