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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-16-2012, 08:50 PM
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Grathos, I'm no expert in these matters but I easily understood what Moggy was talking about. Are you sure you can't work it out for yourself. Seems a bit disingenuous to me.

The main point is that he gave the Hurricane data for startup procedures. The reason the devs shouldn't use the performance data supplied is because they are for Hurricanes with inferior fixed-pitch propellors - something that isn't modelled in COD. (there's also the 87 octane V 100 octane debate of which enough has been said already.)

And he also stated at the bottom of that post that he wasn't Sean.

So what exactly is your problem?
Thank you kendo, the devs cared enough to fit a proper fuel tank selector in Cliffs of Dover. I saw a picture back last year of them holding pilots notes and 1 of them looked a lot like a Hurricane mk.II notes (could be wrong but there aren't too many orange coloured notes around). The mk.I notes are very detailed (158 pages) but most of the performance data is purely for the fixed pitch prop as the notes were made in March 1939 and as such non applicable. However, the procedures themselves didn't change too much so knowing how rare the mk.I notes are I contacted Black Six and sent them in along with ATA notes and the film I mentioned previously.
You're spot on about the 87\100 octane debate that's why I left it there, enough has been said already.
I'm glad someone at least understands my reasoning.
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:55 PM
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[QUOTE=BlackSix;408445]Good day everyone!

"We're very glad to announce that the beta patch is largely done. It's going into wide internal testing today, which will last through the weekend and probably a couple of days more. After we make sure nothing is amiss, we'll make the beta patch available to everyone"

Since a couple equals two, the Patch should be available Wednesday, unless something is amiss. But then B6 actually said "and probably a couple of days more". "Probably" is a good out... even though intentions are good.

Let's hope nothing is amiss...or all bets could be off....

I see the Cage fights continue....Bet there were not this many "experts" in the RAF and Luftwaffe combined!

If you ever work(ed) for Intel...you would learn there is a such thing as "disagree and commit"

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Old 04-16-2012, 09:14 PM
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Grathos, I'm no expert in these matters but I easily understood what Moggy was talking about. Are you sure you can't work it out for yourself. Seems a bit disingenuous to me.
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So what exactly is your problem?
Fair enough Kendo,

Since you chose to answer on his behalf.

Please explain this sentense that Moggy wrote:
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I provided them with ............ I just pray that they didn't use the performance data as I seem to remember they were for the fixed pitch prop and Hurricane Mk.Is when used\transported by the ATA (87 octane fuel).
And tell me what you deduct from this...

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Old 04-16-2012, 09:23 PM
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Please explain this sentense that Moggy wrote:
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I provided them with ............ I just pray that they didn't use the performance data as I seem to remember they were for the fixed pitch prop and Hurricane Mk.Is when used\transported by the ATA (87 octane fuel).
And tell me what you deduct from this...

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My deduction:
He sent them the data, the Hurricane data was for a plane that is not currently in-game so he hopes that they did not use the performance data he provided for the Hurricane flight model.

I also deduct that this makes you angry for some reason...

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Old 04-16-2012, 09:24 PM
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Air Transport Auxillary, very brave male and female pilots who transported aircraft to frontline units. The performance figures used reflect the fact they are not fighter pilots. However, the procedures used for starting the aircraft etc. is the same as what fighter pilots would use.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:32 PM
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He sent them the data, the Hurricane data was for a plane that is not currently in-game so he hopes that they did not use the performance data he provided for the Hurricane flight model.

I also deduct that this makes you angry for some reason...
Indeed,

Why does he write it? To boast about it? That he is the one who screwed up the Hurricane?

ehem #1... hold on a second! Who said the Hurricane got screwed up??? I have not seen the new patch, or have you?

ehem #2... hold on another second! Who said they used his data??? They used Sean's (and he is not Sean).

So, recapitalising: why on earth does he not keep his precious mouth shut and his precious rear part sit tight and wait instead of trying to make us deduct that the Hurricane will be flying with 87oct fuel in the new patch????


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Old 04-16-2012, 09:37 PM
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Ok


Thats enough speculation in this thread.

Too much personal stuff also.




Wait till the patch is out, then gentlemen, start your whinegines.






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Old 04-16-2012, 09:38 PM
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Does anyone else get the feeling this is turning into personal attack and abuse?
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:53 PM
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Does anyone else get the feeling this is turning into personal attack and abuse?
I already apologised to you about this Moggy, in my second post. It is not personal, it was just the perfect example of the madness, hysteria and misinterpretation that is rampant in the forum since the week end.

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Old 04-16-2012, 09:54 PM
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My deduction:
He sent them the data, the Hurricane data was for a plane that is not currently in-game so he hopes that they did not use the performance data he provided for the Hurricane flight model.

I also deduct that this makes you angry for some reason...
So do you think he's a spy for the Blue side??

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