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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-14-2012, 06:38 PM
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if they beta was a "finished product" then it wouldnt be a BETA....get it yet??

you see if it was FINISHED by definition it would not be a beta....that is what we are talking about whether or not they should release the beta patch to the community for testing....

At the time of the OP it was not known if the patch was ready.

What would the point be of comiling half finished code that would create an instant CTD when it attempts to load? Of course the code of a graphics engine rewrite needs to be finished before you can release a beta, you cant just half write something, release it due to whining and call it a beta.
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Old 04-14-2012, 06:40 PM
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At the time of the OP it was not known if the patch was ready.

What would the point be of comiling half finished code that would create an instant CTD when it attempts to load? Of course the code of a graphics engine rewrite needs to be finished before you can release a beta, you cant just half write something, release it due to whining and call it a beta.
This man 'gets it'
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Old 04-14-2012, 06:46 PM
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"We're very glad to announce that the beta patch is largely done. It's going into wide internal testing today, which will last through the weekend and probably a couple of days more. After we make sure nothing is amiss, we'll make the beta patch available to everyone "



hmm it seems that their is indeed a beta patch....and it seems that this same beta patch could be released to the community for testing (which they plan on doing any ways as long as "nothing is amiss"



so you see the word beta attached to the world patch...this implies that the beta patch will have minor issues and even maybe one or two major issues that could only be discovered, by wide scale testing....


but i guess you people wont download the beta patch when it is released, since you dont believe in not releasing things that arent finished...and the nature of a beta is that its not finished...
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Old 04-14-2012, 06:48 PM
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At the time of the OP it was not known if the patch was ready.

What would the point be of comiling half finished code that would create an instant CTD when it attempts to load? Of course the code of a graphics engine rewrite needs to be finished before you can release a beta, you cant just half write something, release it due to whining and call it a beta.
MOOT POINT considering the patch is "largly done"

not as you put it "half finished"

seriously people keep comming up with the fallacies....and also please feel free to not download the beta patch when it comes out, since all you hypocrites keep harping on the negatives of releasing a patch that is not finished...
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Old 04-14-2012, 06:53 PM
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but once they release it it would be considered 'finished' so WTF are you talking about?

you really wan't them to just stop writing code and dump it onto the public without even knowing what it will do?
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:52 PM
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but once they release it it would be considered 'finished' so WTF are you talking about?

you really wan't them to just stop writing code and dump it onto the public without even knowing what it will do?
im pretty sure they know what it will do...thats what the updates we have been given on friday have communicated....the only thing they dont know is how it will perform on certain peoples hardware which is the point of open beta...

just cuz they release a beta patch does not mean its finished....


i guess cuz they released cliffs of dover, it must automatically mean its finished...

seriously people love the fallacious logic you people present....
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Old 04-15-2012, 10:30 AM
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ok lets use a famous analogy based on the glass half full here...

you ask for a drink and the bartender fills it to about 7/8ths....it's nearly done and you just want the drink so for you it's ok, for most others only a full glass will do and are prepared to wait the extra seconds for the bartender to fill it, this is not about the game being finished (we can expect a few more patches in its time) this is just about making sure the BETA is finished.
the devs still need internal testing time to give them an idea if theres any problems that will universally affect others hardware.

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seriously people love the fallacious logic you people present....
why are you such an angry and rude person?
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Old 04-14-2012, 07:15 PM
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MOOT POINT considering the patch is "largly done"

not as you put it "half finished"
Largely done. Not "ready to be compiled and released". I largely finished your car, but didn't install the ignition yet, happy for it to be delivered?

You cant just leave parts of code out and hope for the best. That in a best case would create bad effects and more likely just cause memory leaks and CTDs.

What if there was an error that meant that it created a recurring function and called 100% GPU usage and overheated cards (causing them to break)? Would you be happy they released without any testing at all with a broken PC?

As they said, they are finishing it and putting it into internal testing this weekend, release this week for community beta, then it will be final release. Most companies use this system- NVIDIA for example.
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