Friday Update, April 6, 2012

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

After tonight's group flying, I will again say that the crashes are definitely the MAJOR issue with regard to my enjoyment of the game.

Everything else, at this point, is gravy and good will towards customers.

Tonight could have been much much better save for the launcher.exe crashes.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by klem

Take away all the incidental stuff like the GUI which doesn't affect the actual flying, fly on line (I know that's not a preference for some), take the excellent support of the community servers like ATAG, live with the FMs for now because a Rotol Hurricane gives me a fighting chance against the 109s and restart the game each sortie. Not perfect by a very long country mile but I still prefer it to IL-2 '46. No, it isn't the BoB yet but its very enjoyable.

Yep. I cant even play 1946 anymore.

[Hooves]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

I stopped playing only because of the crashes.

It made no sense to fly for 20 minutes then end up on the desktop, over and over and over...

Or line up a flight of Ju 88s and... CTD.

If I want frustration, I'll just go back to work.

Well said Sir, well said.

deeply agree on all accounts.

[Catseye]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

I stopped playing only because of the crashes.

It made no sense to fly for 20 minutes then end up on the desktop, over and over and over...

Or line up a flight of Ju 88s and... CTD.

If I want frustration, I'll just go back to work.

And yet there are many of us that have not had a crash for weeks. I fly every day for about 3 hours and my settings are pretty much maxed out. No crash or freeze for weeks.

System specs and settings may be an issue for some.

[bw_wolverine]

Originally Posted by Catseye

And yet there are many of us that have not had a crash for weeks. I fly every day for about 3 hours and my settings are pretty much maxed out. No crash or freeze for weeks.

System specs and settings may be an issue for some.

That doesn't mean it's not a major issue.

I have an i7. I have a 580 GTX. I have 12gb of RAM. I still get a game crash once every two nights of playing. Usually when I forget to restart the game between sorties.

I think my system is pretty good. This is a bigger issue than someone not having a decent enough computer.

Oh, I've even reduced my graphics settings in some areas to see if it helps. Nope.

[von Pilsner]

Originally Posted by Catseye

And yet there are many of us that have not had a crash for weeks. I fly every day for about 3 hours and my settings are pretty much maxed out. No crash or freeze for weeks.

System specs and settings may be an issue for some.

That's great that you are having good luck, I assume you mean online flying.

There are enough users having this issue across many different hardware configurations that it is not simply a matter of lowering graphics settings.

http://www.google.com/search?ix=heb&...iw=853&bih=400

[Skoshi Tiger]

Unfortunately if the problem was consistent accross all systems then it would be easier to isolate and fix. Intermittent or non consistent errors are exponentially harder to find and correct.

For ages I had issues with the original IL-2, ROF, Call of Duty and a-10 crashing to desktop and it ended up being a CODEC setting for FFDShow. Putting my games on an exclusion list and it solved the problem.

Touch wood, I'm haven't had the CTD issue in CoD

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

Unfortunately if the problem was consistent accross all systems then it would be easier to isolate and fix. Intermittent or non consistent errors are exponentially harder to find and correct.

For ages I had issues with the original IL-2, ROF, Call of Duty and a-10 crashing to desktop and it ended up being a CODEC setting for FFDShow. Putting my games on an exclusion list and it solved the problem.

Touch wood, I'm haven't had the CTD issue in CoD

Wiat what? What? you did what and never got a CTD...

Tell us more you mad fool~!

Originally Posted by EvilJoven

The silent majority aren't so silent, they just don't post here because this forum is just too horrible for words. Go look at other places and you'll see a lot of flight sim communities. At this point the CloD community outside of this forum consists of making fun of how terrible CloD is and laughing at how so many of you banana forums people sing and dance and clap and act like the dev team just handed you a puppy and a bag of coke when they show you a picture of a beautifully rendered fence post. Meanwhile, the game sits in this broken, unfun state over a year after launch.

IL-2 is basically the Duke Nukem Forever of flight sims. We waited years for an IL-2 sequel and got something laughable. The only difference is nobody is still defending DNF over a year after launch.

I'm a member on a forum with 160,000+ members, and there is an ongoing CLOD thread. The typical discussions are... (in order of most coverage).

1. "What's wrong with the people on the banana forums?"
2. "Did you see what they asked for? Who would even care about that in a flight sim?"
3. What are the Dev's thinking? Do they think the 1C forums represent the majority of fans?
4. When are they going to add some content, make CO-OP creation easier, etc?
5. WHAT!?! Battle of Moscow? Are they ever going to finish Cliffs of Dover (the game content, not the engine).

Every time someone new posts in that thread asking, "Hey, should I pick up CLOD?" They invariable end up getting DSC-A10, or Rise of Flight, or one of the other flight sims out there. I think that Cliffs of Dover is great for the flight sim Genre because so many people either get fed up with it, or are told not to buy it that they end up getting a different game instead.

And it's not like that thread is full of arcade players. There are actual real pilots, people who do vatsim in FSX, and people who can start up the Blackshark or A-10 without having to once refer to any manual. They all agree, CLOD is not fun as is, and it has nothing to do with crashes or FPS.

Then again they're not the kind of people to "scream like a little girl" when they see the window framss in the new buildings.

[addman]

Originally Posted by speculum jockey

I'm a member on a forum with 160,000+ members, and there is an ongoing CLOD thread. The typical discussions are... (in order of most coverage).

1. "What's wrong with the people on the banana forums?"
2. "Did you see what they asked for? Who would even care about that in a flight sim?"
3. What are the Dev's thinking? Do they think the 1C forums represent the majority of fans?
4. When are they going to add some content, make CO-OP creation easier, etc?
5. WHAT!?! Battle of Moscow? Are they ever going to finish Cliffs of Dover (the game content, not the engine).

Every time someone new posts in that thread asking, "Hey, should I pick up CLOD?" They invariable end up getting DSC-A10, or Rise of Flight, or one of the other flight sims out there. I think that Cliffs of Dover is great for the flight sim Genre because so many people either get fed up with it, or are told not to buy it that they end up getting a different game instead.

And it's not like that thread is full of arcade players. There are actual real pilots, people who do vatsim in FSX, and people who can start up the Blackshark or A-10 without having to once refer to any manual. They all agree, CLOD is not fun as is, and it has nothing to do with crashes or FPS.

Then again they're not the kind of people to "scream like a little girl" when they see the window framss in the new buildings.

Good post Speculum and I agree, the banana is a separate entity all together from the rest of the sim community. Like an isolated island where animals have developed "differently" from species found on major continents. Oh! also regarding my post you mentioned at the end there, it's the second time I've had to explain I was being sarcastic, I guess sarcasm doesn't translate so well onto internet forums eh?

[furbs]

My sqd mates agree, we have all brought CLOD but dont play it, we all WANT to play but the non existent BOB content and problems are just too much trouble and were not really interested in DFS's, we want online wars and COOP's.

Were all waiting for CLOD to become a BOB simulation, at the moment its just not, its a online small number, low level engagement over the sea, with BOB planes.