My fianl letter to 1c

[Hooves]

Originally Posted by too-cool

Does anyone happen to have a receipt or product package that has clearly stamped on it, xx$ for Work In Progress (WIP). Not many products and I mean products, are sold to the general public as a WIP, and just for the record anyone who purchase this game and is not satisfied with it has a right to complain as much and as often as they like, just like you're complaining about them complaining. The more the problems are keep in the front the more likely they are to be addressed. So keep complaining even if it's about the same issues and maybe just maybe they'll get tired of hearing it and fix the problem. Lets you forget, this is 2012 and not everyone wants/willing to wait another 5-7 years to get a product that's usable to them, the key words here is "usable to them". TC

+1

I see exactly where this OP is coming from. I DO play on the ATAG server, but have had my fill with the game after SEVEN launcher crashes in 2 hours, doing all the so called "fixes" to try and avoid another launcher crash. The FANBOY is strong with this forum. And as stated above, the box didnt say WIP. Hence it should work. Yes there are always bugs. But game wrecking crashes that go on for a year ofter release? Come on. You gotta be yanking my chain to get mad at a guy that is unpleased with the game at this point.

Im with the OP, while Ill stay on the forums (mostly cause I like a good fight) I dont blame him one bit for leaving this steaming pile. Or these forums filled with blind adoration for a broken mess.

Am I looking forward to the patch? You betchya, because just like you, i love WWII combat flight. But you can only drag my wallet out so for so long until I tell you to get bent.

[David198502]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

Carguy and alike:

Pls get a walk in the park and refrain your personal insults.

+1

[ATAG_Doc]

Do you have any SIM products you are going to part with?? PM me.

[David198502]

im disgusted by some comments in this thread, by people who pretend to be "mature"

[Sammi79]

As if anyone cares... I remain optimistic about COD, since I have been assured by direct communication from the developer that they are still working on it. If the message from them comes to 'funding withdrawn, sorry folks that's it' I will be disappointed, and I will think twice about buying their next product. I already kick myself for buying another title from UBIsoft after the SH5 nonsense.

I think the OP was OK, he seems like a nice kid, managed to keep the swearing down to a couple of words and he is obviously frustrated, but there was a little too much 'I want' yadda yadda for me to take him seriously, but after all he's just kid, they do tend to do that. He has his opinion and he shared it, and a video does avoid some of the misunderstanding that can result from reading messages. It was certainly less extreme than some posters have been here. No need for hating on him, he has a lot to learn and the time to learn it. I would be more sympathetic to someone like my dad who has probably a year at best left in him, and might never get to see the work completed.

A forum can only be as good as its members and there has been some truly foul behaviour round here of late. Whatever your opinion is, personal insults and plain ad hominem attacks show only one thing, the bad attitude of the poster. Call me a fanboy or a whiner all you like, but try to remember exactly how much of a shnizzle I give, which is exactly none. If it really bothers you that much, then you could quite likely benefit from professional help, behavioural therapy, anger management, whatever it takes. Life is too short to worry about a videogame, chalk it up to experience and vote with your wallet in future. For the life of me I can't understand why people are continuously baiting each other here, If I ran these forums I would seriously consider just getting rid of this one, and letting people get their updates from non-interactive sites or through Steam. The forum is a privilege, as is the channel of communication with the developer, neither of these things are a right no matter what you were 'promised' or what you paid. Try to be grateful for it, as I am.

Regards, Sam.

[Dano]

Originally Posted by too-cool

Does anyone happen to have a receipt or product package that has clearly stamped on it, xx$ for Work In Progress (WIP). Not many products and I mean products, are sold to the general public as a WIP, and just for the record anyone who purchase this game and is not satisfied with it has a right to complain as much and as often as they like, just like you're complaining about them complaining. The more the problems are keep in the front the more likely they are to be addressed. So keep complaining even if it's about the same issues and maybe just maybe they'll get tired of hearing it and fix the problem. Lets you forget, this is 2012 and not everyone wants/willing to wait another 5-7 years to get a product that's usable to them, the key words here is "usable to them". TC

Show me one piece of software that has never been patched because it was perfect at launch, it is a very sad state of affaris that we live in times where it has become the norm for software to be released before it has been fully tested or is at all ready for release. Yes, CoD was in a far worse state than 99% of releases but please, do not attempt to make out that it is alone in it's stable, there are plenty of games that come close, Skyrim on the PS3 comes to mind instantly.

If you feel the software was not suitable for purpose then it should have returned it to the point of purchase long ago.

Buyers have every right to complain about it's faults and indeed they should complain, but the continual repitition is going nowhere apart from inflaming the community especially when we know it is being worked on.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by pupo162

and bye all!

Your loss

PS see sig

[GOA_Potenz]

so a mature person is some one over which age??? cause most post are calling him a kid, and saying him that his not mature, so there's a certain age when you can call yourself mature??? he just expressed his thoughts and feelings about the game which aren't so far away from what i feel, and i can run the game perfectly, but as pupo i feel cheated by the devs, it also make me remember the stunning video of CFS 3 back in the days to see that the game wasn't that, the promo video of CloD did something like that showing you something that wasn't what you will get as soon as you get the game installed.

So please all the guys insulting and p*ssing on him, be a bit mature and show some respect when any body else thinks different as you think

potz

[DroopSnoot]

Originally Posted by pupo162

HI!

well this who i am and this is all i have left to say. im not going to post anymore in this forums, become they dont serve their purpose anymore ( we cant communicate with the developers, nor they communicate with us. so... )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=iBNe7DjXjpU#!

pardon my english.

and bye all!


edit:

...already broke my promisse dindt i?

To all those who insulted me: you missed the point of the video.

and to all of those who are telling me to grow up, i wont. This is who i am, and honestly. i ahve no problem about it.

and im not about to break up in tears, tough i admit, that would have been nice.

and to those who tell me to "get a life", well, i have one. as you can see, i have a guitar in the back, i like to play the guitar. i liked to play il2 too. those were my 2 favorite hobbies. im sorry im so passionate by my hobbies. my third hobbie is university. my dream is to become a pilot ( still working on that)

after all this is not a message to you, but to luthier. i spammed it here in the hopes he actually would see it. it may not be very mature to "spam the internetz with my feeligns" but its far more mature giving my face in a forum than just spamming post over post with complaints and member attacking. i have done it and im sorry for it. hoped everyone here "fanboys and whiners" would actually stop doing that, and only said what they would if theyre face was in it, not an avatar.

Salute

+1

I heard you mate, even if Luthier dont. I hope I see you in the skies, take care mate.

Droopy

[Baron]

Originally Posted by David198502

im disgusted by some comments in this thread, by people who pretend to be "mature"

So now the ones constantly babbling on and on and on about the same s**t over and over and over again are the mature ones and the people that's sick and tired of hearing the same s**t over and over again the immature ones (the state of affairs at this point is irrelevant and yes you heard me saying that)


What is this, the twilight zone?


And if anyone regurgitates the same old bl**dy "arguments" as to why they are disappointed, so help me good ill scream.


P.S. To the OP, what's so hard to understand? They are working very hard to make CloD into what we ALL expect. Why do you feel a need to send a message to Luthier, do you actually think he will respond? Trust me, he wont. He and the team are to busy working. You are not expecting an answer, you already have the same information all the rest of us do. Maby you are dissapointed but the reason some "mock" you is because enough is enough. Its tiresome because this "sharing of opinions" has been going on for months now and it WILL NOT make things happen any faster, period. Just dont think you are alone in bringing allot of people to the brink of an emotional breakdown, your not. Your post is just the tip of months and months long barrage of the same crap repeated ad nauseum. Except the facts and live with it or take, as you say, a break, a long enough brake to make you realize that there are more important stuff to waste energy on in life. All the people complaining did have a chance to return the DVD and get a refund (dont know how it is where everyoneelse lives but here its a right by law, so no excuses if you dont return it) but instead they choose not to and instead infested every forum remotely linked to flight sims acting like victims and "normal", for lack of a better word, people are fed up with it, period.

Report bugs etc by all means but leave the "victim" attitude at the door, short and to the point is all that's needed, or wanted at this point.


My request to all who is fed up is this: Dont post in any thread that you KNOW will derail because of for mentioned reasons, if you don't those threads will be very very short and monotonousness.