The Crystal Ball 2

[ATAG_Keller]

I don't get all this complaining, personally I am having a great time flying this sim and have learned to deal with it's current issues. I'm thankful that I at least get to fly what we have and that I'm not still waiting for the game to be released.

This is a cutting edge sim, with talented people working to make it better everyday, and I'd much rather they be working towards our next patch than appeasing the people on here that are complaining because they didn't get it 100% perfect on the first attempt.

[Ctrl E]

Guys. Stop apologising. You paid for a promised product and didn't get it.

Now the developers are being incredibly rude to their remaining dwindling customer base.

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by Ctrl E

Guys. Stop apologising. You paid for a promised product and didn't get it.

Now the developers are being incredibly rude to their remaining dwindling customer base.

+1

This needs to be said more.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Ctrl E

Guys. Stop apologising. You paid for a promised product and didn't get it.

Now the developers are being incredibly rude to their remaining dwindling customer base.

I strongly disagree with your view.

[JG53_Valantine]

Personally I am disappointed that we have not yet seen the patch considering how long ago the alst one was released and the major stability issues we still have to put up with. The game is clearly playable for some (and I have to say I am in that fortunate group of people to a certain extent) however the launcher crashes hit me whenever I fly online anywhere around the hour mark and no matter what I do with settings, cache clearance, game booster etc. etc.

I still think that Cliffs of Dover is a great game and has a lot of potential, but not having the basic foundation of it being stable is beginning to get difficult to stomach. The stability needs to be fixed, everything else is secondary: I can cope with slightly odd AI, "non accurate" FM's and a multitude of other issues: but the crashes are starting to stretch my patience.

Will I buy Battle of Moscow? Yep!! - whilst Cliffs of Dover has been a terrible launch into the new "Il2" series I really hope that we will see this new series grow and mature just like we did with the original IL2 series.

Right now JG53 is in the interim weeks between the Battle of France (which we used as a tester campaign getting used to the new game etc.) and the Battle of Britain - I had hoped for the patch today as that would have tied in great as right now it is difficult for a group such as ours to oeprate a full Battle of Britain theatre simply because by the time we have gotten airborne, formed up and gotten to target we have lost 30% of people to launcher crashes, add in the time to complete whatever objective or engagement is set and you're looking at around 25% of people are most left "in mission" : sure the others can relaunch their games and reconnect but the teamwork is broken up destroying the focus and immersion of missions.

I hope to see the patch soon, even if it simply eliminates the launcher crash issue - the other features I'm happy to wait for, even happy to pay for with the Battle of Moscow addon.
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[Dano]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Keller

I don't get all this complaining, personally I am having a great time flying this sim and have learned to deal with it's current issues. I'm thankful that I at least get to fly what we have and that I'm not still waiting for the game to be released.

This is a cutting edge sim, with talented people working to make it better everyday, and I'd much rather they be working towards our next patch than appeasing the people on here that are complaining because they didn't get it 100% perfect on the first attempt.

Well said

[jimbop]

There was surprise and confusion (this thread as well as the update thread) that the next patch was purely graphics and performance rather than 'the' patch that would bring CoD up to what it should have been at release with numerous bug fixes.

I think/hope that the delay may be due to a change of plans to include more than just graphics performance in the beta. Either that or luthier's definition of "very shortly" is a bit odd! I'm certainly expecting more than graphics performance in the next patch.

[ParaB]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Keller

I don't get all this complaining...

Let me guess: you're playing almost exclusively online and are a big fan of dogfight servers?

Some of us don't share your preferences. Some of us prefer immersive offline campaigns or coop online missions. Some of us are deeply disappointed with the state of the sim almost 12 months after release. I'm happy for everyone enjoying CloD, but I'd appreciate when in return there was some understanding that there are indeed reasonable complaints.

[ATAG_Keller]

Originally Posted by ParaB

Let me guess: you're playing almost exclusively online and are a big fan of dogfight servers?

Some of us don't share your preferences. Some of us prefer immersive offline campaigns or coop online missions. Some of us are deeply disappointed with the state of the sim almost 12 months after release. I'm happy for everyone enjoying CloD, but I'd appreciate when in return there was some understanding that there are indeed reasonable complaints.

Clearly you've never played on the ATAG server; I fly mostly bombers in an attempt to take out objectives in our objective-based missions. I'm an average fighter pilot at best and prefer to stay away from enemy fighters since I'm usually level bombing in a HE-111, dive bombing in a Stuka or low level bombing in a Bf-110. My joy comes from working with my teammates towards destroying an objective target, not downing a fighter.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by ParaB

Let me guess: you're playing almost exclusively online and are a big fan of dogfight servers?

Some of us don't share your preferences. Some of us prefer immersive offline campaigns or coop online missions. Some of us are deeply disappointed with the state of the sim almost 12 months after release. I'm happy for everyone enjoying CloD, but I'd appreciate when in return there was some understanding that there are indeed reasonable complaints.

that is indeed a very important distinction, and i fully agree

the "online air quake slog fest" is the only working element that is available right now in CoD, and even then only for people with higher-end pc's (or you need to dial everything down so much it looks significantly worse then 1946)

midrange pc folks have lots of problems that make the sim much less functional (small stutters and microfreezes for ex, even if much better then 5 months ago, its still a big problem).

and 12 months after release there is no excuse for them not having fixed coop functions. just as an example re coop's: we should be able to run a coop mission with several players against AI and have new people able to join while the mission is already in play (the host should then have control over who can join, and what red/blue team they can join, and allow people who have "died" to re-enter the game and then join a multi crewed plane on the side they were flying for for ex )

the long promised dynamic campaign engine also needs to be available (for online and offline), and tools provided for the community to improve on it

to instead give us a few pictures of new planes they are working on for BoM, and no patches at all to address some of the other omitted elements is pretty bad. even if the gfx engine fix is the most important as we all agree ( and will be released in the next patch), the other missing features could/should have been worked on in the meantime