why didnt i study this in five years of thermodinamics

[Cataplasma]

nice! But...

"Test units constructed by Mother Earth News (Issue 40, July 1976) and the MythBusters (Episode 24, December 5, 2004 – "Ming Dynasty Astronaut") did work to convert temperature difference into torque..."

[raaaid]

yeah and dont you find odd only old written reference is mother nature article when mintos from 1900

something really is going on

[Slayer]

The thing with this device is the heated water, you need an external source to put BTU's into the water. It's a gimmic and not efficient. Pseudoscience..

[raaaid]

tel me something with better eficiency then 85% and that works with less than 2º gradient

and why it was only distributed through mother erath magazine "till now" but supression


this used to be coolest till now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baW3gwWQ1f4

[5./JG27.Farber]

You can fly your tea cup powered machine, Ill fly my pertol driven ICE...

Thanks but no thanks.

Why dont you check out the water powered car... Thats allot more relevant to your argument...

[Les]

Originally Posted by Slayer

The thing with this device is the heated water, you need an external source to put BTU's into the water...

What, like the sun?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJeYKEpX56o

[Outlaw]

None of this has ever been suppressed. The Stirling cycle is taught in real thermo classes but, evidently, not in imaginary ones. We even had a Stirling engine in our thermo lab.

I will go out on a limb and bet that there is no university level text book printed in the last 60 years that has not covered a closed cycle heat engine (like the Stirling cycle).

Regardless, the problem is not whether or not it, "works". Everyone knows it "works". Stirling engines have been used throughout the world for hundreds of years and are in use today. The problem is with the specific power of closed cycle engines.

Just because you can turn a little flywheel on a table top does not mean it will scale up to produce megawatts of easily manageable power better than every other means of generating mechanical work.

So, in summary, no suppression, just the difficulties of reality.

--Outlaw.

[raaaid]

i had a stirling in class too but i was talking of minto wheel

or maybe you had heard about it before?

[WTE_Galway]

Its not exactly suppressed when you can buy model kits based on the principles ...

http://www.en.boehm-stirling.com/a1.html

here is another interesting principle

http://www.en.boehm-stirling.com/hb24.html



If you are interested in some really mad paranoid conspiracy theories about suppressed impossible technology look online at the crazy stuff about Bruce De Palma (brother of Brian De Palma the famous movie director) and his homo-polar "N machine". I met De Palma on a few occasions before he died and he was definitely a few feathers short of a full duck and the machine definitely does not work.

http://depalma.pair.com/

[Outlaw]

Originally Posted by raaaid

i had a stirling in class too but i was talking of minto wheel

or maybe you had heard about it before?

The purpose of a text book is not to showcase every single example of a concept. That stupid wheel is simply another closed cycle heat engine, and a very bad one at that.

The reason no one knows about it is because it is useless in the real world. There are hundreds of better ways to produce power right now.


--Outlaw.