For MudMovers: What kind of tanks cannot be destroyed with Mk103?

[swiss]

Originally Posted by DKoor

Please tell me you guys have a plan to make it in game...
Wfr.Gr.21s are nice but I feel those panzerblitzs would be real salt on a wound for tanks.

UP3 has them.

[RPS69]

Best german AT weapon, the AB500.

Not easy to deploy although, if too high it spreads too much, too low, it will not open and explode harmlessly on the ground. You could take the four tanks of a formation with one single drop, even KV's.

AB250 works too, but it covers a lesser area.

AB1000 is useless in game, as it is incendiary, and does really very low damage.

Originally, the AB's started to be useful, with a correction in UP. I haven't tried them in 4.11 yet. They are not as destructive as PTAB's, but not as useless as they were in the original version.

Second best, the StukaG. On the modded version, I just opted to modify the historically correct thickness of the KV1 of 40mm, to 35mm to maintain the rest of the game balance.

MK103 is very good against softer tanks, but a T34 is somewhat exaggeratedly tough against this canon. Basically as posted before, because of the simplified damage model of tanks.

[DKoor]

Originally Posted by RPS69

MK103 is very good against softer tanks, but a T34 is somewhat exaggeratedly tough against this canon. Basically as posted before, because of the simplified damage model of tanks.

I destroyed two of those with Mk103 gondollas in FW in one sortie.
But surely they aren't softies, I attacked them from rear (they were in column).

[RPS69]

Originally Posted by DKoor

I destroyed two of those with Mk103 gondollas in FW in one sortie.
But surely they aren't softies, I attacked them from rear (they were in column).

Yes, you can destroy them from the rear, but actually in RL, they penetrated even the turret sides, although, the pilots don't realize it, so they tended to favor the bombs against this canon, but infantry reports stated that they were quite deadly on T34's turret, in the battle of Kharkov 1942.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by RPS69

Yes, you can destroy them from the rear, but actually in RL, they penetrated even the turret sides, although, the pilots don't realize it, so they tended to favor the bombs against this canon, but infantry reports stated that they were quite deadly on T34's turret, in the battle of Kharkov 1942.

The pilots realized this fact very well. I can supply you with books about it.

[RPS69]

Originally Posted by swiss

The pilots realized this fact very well. I can supply you with books about it.

Sources are always welcome!

Still, from what I can remember, the very few Hs129 with a 30mm installed on them, got an initially bad review. Almost to the point that if the Germans loose on Kharkov 42, not enabling the infantry to inspect enemy destroyed tanks, this weapon introduction could have been delayed.

I don't remember the source, I learned this while making a short Kharkov 1942 Hs129 campaign some 3 years back. If you could point me to better info, I will really appreciate it.

Still, my point was that it will penetrate the turret sides, while in game, it won't.

[DKoor]

Originally Posted by swiss

UP3 has them.

I play stock game 411.... modded stuff aren't my cup of tea any more.