Friday Update, February 10, 2012

[BlackSix]

Originally Posted by Osprey

B6, this specifically mentions an option within the menu to select. That does not mean you didn't include it, but from this reply it appears that you aren't including it? Even then I am unsure because your answer is ambiguous.

IF there is 100 octane fuel for the aircraft already then it is not modeled. Please could you answer which fits your explanation:

1. It is already there but not modeled in FM.
2. It is already there but not modeled in FM and we are going to model it in FM in the CloD patch.
3. We have no plans to model it in the CloD patch but it will be modeled in BoM
4. We have no plans to model it ever

I myself don't know anything on this subject, it does not overlap with my work. I need to ask permission for publication by Ilya such data, and then find out this information from the programmer.

[SiThSpAwN]

Nice update, how about next Friday a video of in game play with new graphics? Well that is if we dont get the patch next week...

[Talisman]

BlackSix,

Thank you very much for your reply regarding 100 Octane fuel. The aircraft instruments appear not to show 100 Octane performance;100 Octane fuel is documented as one of the fundamental aspects of the Battle of Britain for the RAF.
May I refer you to the detailed post from "Klem", dated 11th Jan, on the forum thread for requested improvements:

01-11-2012, 08:45 AM
klem
Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,066

100 Octane fuel

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Type of improvement:
Add 100 octane fuel modelling for all Spitfires and Hurricanes.

Explanation of Proposals:
100 octane fuel was in use by all of the Fighter Commans stations by the time of the BoB. Geoffrey Lloyd, British Minister of Fuel and Power said; “I think that without 100 octane we should not have won the Battle of Britain. But we had 100 octane.”
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchi...0-%200044.html
http://www.nceastmgtf.com/modules/ev...rted%20Oil.pdf
http://www.lago-colony.com/STORIES_R...HISTORY_DJ.htm

A list of reports on another forum which I link to to save space (especially read "Appendix IV" for performance figures and the BATTLE OF BRITAIN section under "A. R. Ogston, excerpt from History of Aircraft Lubricants (Society of Automotive Engineers, Inc. Warrendale, PA USA), p. 12." for confirmation that "March 1940 Fighter Command converted all its Spitfire and Hurricane Rolls-Royce Merlin powered fighters to 100 octane"):-
http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/avi...tml#post542367
and another listing combat reports mentioning 100 octane or +12lbs boost all from as early as May 1940
http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/avi...tml#post542707

Benefits:
Historical accuracy/Realism.
__________________
klem
56 Squadron RAF "Firebirds"
http://firebirds.2ndtaf.org.uk/

[Sutts]

Originally Posted by Talisman

BlackSix,

Thank you very much for your reply regarding 100 Octane fuel. The aircraft instruments appear not to show 100 Octane performance;100 Octane fuel is documented as one of the fundamental aspects of the Battle of Britain for the RAF.
May I refer you to the detailed post from "Klem", dated 11th Jan, on the forum thread for requested improvements:

01-11-2012, 08:45 AM
klem
Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,066

100 Octane fuel

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Type of improvement:
Add 100 octane fuel modelling for all Spitfires and Hurricanes.

Explanation of Proposals:
100 octane fuel was in use by all of the Fighter Commans stations by the time of the BoB. Geoffrey Lloyd, British Minister of Fuel and Power said; “I think that without 100 octane we should not have won the Battle of Britain. But we had 100 octane.”
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchi...0-%200044.html
http://www.nceastmgtf.com/modules/ev...rted%20Oil.pdf
http://www.lago-colony.com/STORIES_R...HISTORY_DJ.htm

A list of reports on another forum which I link to to save space (especially read "Appendix IV" for performance figures and the BATTLE OF BRITAIN section under "A. R. Ogston, excerpt from History of Aircraft Lubricants (Society of Automotive Engineers, Inc. Warrendale, PA USA), p. 12." for confirmation that "March 1940 Fighter Command converted all its Spitfire and Hurricane Rolls-Royce Merlin powered fighters to 100 octane"):-
http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/avi...tml#post542367
and another listing combat reports mentioning 100 octane or +12lbs boost all from as early as May 1940
http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/avi...tml#post542707

Benefits:
Historical accuracy/Realism.
__________________
klem
56 Squadron RAF "Firebirds"
http://firebirds.2ndtaf.org.uk/

I agree this would be a welcome addition and if it was server controlled then we could all do with it what we wanted. No more arguments.

There is no doubt in my mind that the RAF was using it in their front line fighters in the BoB period. I've even seen reference to bombers and trainers using it too in this period. They had more than enough 100 octane stock piled at the time as official documents prove.

[king1hw]

I would have to agree with my dear friends from the 56th. 100 Octane might be modeled for the spit IIa but none of the servers make it available. Like I said in another post an I will express it here. All Axis and Allied engine variants should be modeled PERIOD. This will allow us server developers to create a great map rotation with a progressive war scenario like SNAFU did on the July 10th mission. I am dumb founded that FM and DM are not being progressed and feel that this area is key and to wait for BoM is sad. I have been engaged with this sim for quite some time and usually do not post on here. But like many others I have waited quite some time to see this sim produced and to hear you guys moving on with only 3 RAF planes flyable is a JOKE. I will continue to HOPE for the future of this sim but your customer base is disheartened to say the least and all your doing is postponing. Now 1946 developed quite nicely and that is why I am still sticking with you but your not helping us who are trying to push the sales and support of the BATTLE OF BRITAIN scenario. It almost like you jump ship on the whole arena instead of selling that arena to be better. I am sorry I really don't want updates on BoM until you get in gear on CLoD. I will buy BoM but I am about this arena first and would like to see more focus on FIXING this game.

Sorry for the rant but getting it on both sides of the channel 109s need FM fixes and variants. Same goes for the Spitfires and Hurries as well as the Beufighter to match the 110s.

Well thats off my chest I will wait patiently till someone changes your marketing PLAN!!!

Out

Originally Posted by BlackSix

I myself don't know anything on this subject, it does not overlap with my work. I need to ask permission for publication by Ilya such data, and then find out this information from the programmer.

If you could ask Luthier to read the bugs report thread then maybe these issues could get addressed sooner, so we dont keep springing bugs on you that you have no knowledge of.

[Talisman]

BlackSix,

Thank you very much for your reply regarding 100 Octane fuel. The aircraft instruments appear not to show 100 Octane performance;100 Octane fuel is documented as one of the fundamental aspects of the Battle of Britain for the RAF.
May I refer you to the detailed post from "Klem", dated 11th Jan, on the forum thread for requested improvements:

01-11-2012, 08:45 AM
klem
Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,066

100 Octane fuel

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Type of improvement:
Add 100 octane fuel modelling for all Spitfires and Hurricanes.

Explanation of Proposals:
100 octane fuel was in use by all of the Fighter Commans stations by the time of the BoB. Geoffrey Lloyd, British Minister of Fuel and Power said; “I think that without 100 octane we should not have won the Battle of Britain. But we had 100 octane.”
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchi...0-%200044.html
http://www.nceastmgtf.com/modules/ev...rted%20Oil.pdf
http://www.lago-colony.com/STORIES_R...HISTORY_DJ.htm

A list of reports on another forum which I link to to save space (especially read "Appendix IV" for performance figures and the BATTLE OF BRITAIN section under "A. R. Ogston, excerpt from History of Aircraft Lubricants (Society of Automotive Engineers, Inc. Warrendale, PA USA), p. 12." for confirmation that "March 1940 Fighter Command converted all its Spitfire and Hurricane Rolls-Royce Merlin powered fighters to 100 octane"):-
http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/avi...tml#post542367
and another listing combat reports mentioning 100 octane or +12lbs boost all from as early as May 1940
http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/avi...tml#post542707

Benefits:
Historical accuracy/Realism.
__________________
klem
56 Squadron RAF "Firebirds"
http://firebirds.2ndtaf.org.uk/

[moilami]

Originally Posted by icarus

This update says mod your CoD skins while we work on Russian countryside, FLAK guns, and Eastern Front stuff. Draw your own conclusions.

Well, ok then.

That sounds like a good plan

[JG52Krupi]

Love how you can shoot the tank tracks off

[louisv]

Originally Posted by pupo162

my game looks nothing like thsi either, nor does it look like this on my friends pc with a 560TI

Well, on my 580 it looks exactly like this. Clearly no change in graphics here.

When the new graphics are out, it will be a day of great rejoicing !!!

Thanks for the update.