4.11 overheat and engine damage test results

[T}{OR]

Originally Posted by WhistlinggDeath

Kindly, dear sirs, what 'engineer' (s) made this patch ?

See post #148. That is how a proper testing should be performed.

[Luno13]

Gents, I am the guy who published a well read (and correct article) about the use of PP in IL2. Yes, I know that, thank you, but I just wanted the simplest test possible, and for most situations, the TA does better on auto than manual prop pitch.

And it does not negate my main point,

THE OVERHEAT MODEL IN 4.11 IS MESSED UP, .... BADLY

Then you ought to know that a full-power dive in any plane even with kommandogerat is going to over-rev it and shorten the time to an overheat condition.

It's hardly a "Simple" test because you can't make any reasonable comparisons with a full-power dive and then apex-climb with different aircraft unless you can reproduce the flight path exactly. Otherwise, it's just "feelings" which are useless in a scientific comparison.

So yes, it completely negates your main point.

The overheat model in 4.11 is fine...what's bad are your flying habits and attitude.

[WhistlinggDeath]

Papa - Here is another test (and the last one I will be doing), with the TA 152 H1 on the Crimea map, with rad set full open, auto pitch, from 1000m full dive on WEP, and then semi-steep combat climb. Reached overheat condition by the apex (in one climb):

http://www.mediafire.com/?dzxqgfh1gbducwd

I do not reach overheat in one climb on this map with those conditions with the Spit 25lbs or M185 71. Not even close.

[WhistlinggDeath]

As to the rest of you (or the majority), it reminds me of debating an ardent Democrat or Republican here in the States. You strike them down on one topic or prove how silly it is, and they change topic and attack from a different direction. Your need for an exact reproducible experiment is something I strongly support (I am a university educated engineer in real life, and I cherish the scientific method above almost all else except for good sex or great surf). And I have done so, twice now. And under very easy to reproduce conditions.

Dont wanna listen to me cause you cant see past your personal animosity because I blow up people online without being apologetic about it.

That's cool.

As I said, there are like 150 guys a week flying online at any of the decent servers. The online portion of the game is all but dead. I will fly 4.10.1 on my own rig and use the 185 M-71 when I visit the clownwagon contests that are predominately left today (and using 4.11).

Planes with brand new engines did not in WWII come out of a dive and then overheat on boost in one climb.

Period.

No how. No way.

The interview with Capt Holcomb, will be put up at Mission4Today.com in a few days. If interested, make your way there and enjoy. His comments about so many things that deal nothing with P51 engine performance are entertaining in their own right.

End of this thread for me. Good luck Team D, however you decide to guide future patches. S! Gents.

[fruitbat]

Originally Posted by WhistlinggDeath

As I said, there are like 150 guys a week flying online at any of the decent servers. The online portion of the game is all but dead.

Online game is not dead at all, its just most people who do fly, don't fly on airquake servers that you seem to think is all il2 is.

Most will instead like myself fly with there squad and do historical stuff instead.

I can't think of anything more dull than going on a airquake sever, and yes just cause its locked pit and no icons etc, its still airquake, if your just racing around in la7's fw 190d9's spit25lbs etc.... Yawn.....

Currently i'm flying in a internal online squad event set in N.Africa 1940 flying Gladiators and bleinhems vs the other half flying cr42's and sm79's. Guess you've never even been in any of those planes since there not late war uber planes, oh expert.

Originally Posted by t}{or

see post #148. That is how a proper testing should be performed.

+10000

[jameson]

Wonder what the good Captain said when WD told him he nosed over his p51 into a dive at full throttle plus WEP? The sound of silence or laughter must have been something to behold. Some of our experten are gonna have to learn to fly, at last.

[Redroach]

Originally Posted by WhistlinggDeath

Planes with brand new engines did not in WWII come out of a dive and then overheat on boost in one climb.

Period.

No how. No way.

If you really are an 'university-educated engineer', then you should know that you have to back up each and every claim with hard facts. Also, academics strive to stay as objective as possible. Bending reality in order to stay superior in one's own favourite mount doesn't fit the picture in a way.
Looking forward to that interview, too

[BadAim]

Originally Posted by WhistlinggDeath

Dont wanna listen to me cause you cant see past your personal animosity because I blow people online without being apologetic about it.

Hey that's entirely a personal thing, dude. Your love life is none of our business.

[Snake]

Good one, BadAim!!!!

[Jumoschwanz]

Originally Posted by WhistlinggDeath

I blow people online without being apologetic about it.

This is one video I am not interested in looking at.......and this is going to be a legendary quote for many years in the IL2 community and will be echoed as much or more than "slider on a stick"....