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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 01-30-2012, 03:20 PM
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Maddox Games is a business not a hobby. Bills need to be payed. COD may have been released early to keep the project/business running. They need to play politics to survive. They need to eat. Two years ago the frenzy that was created with the rumors that Storm Of War may be close to release would have made the bean counters pretty confidant they would survive an early release of the game with all its faults. The project might now have the finances to continue with IL2s evolution.

I for one hope Maddox Games can achieve their goals and they are "huge goals". Buying a cutting edge game as a work in progress for me is better than not having the game at all. I wish the developers all the best. In the end we will all be the winners.
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Old 01-30-2012, 03:41 PM
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Maddox Games is a business not a hobby. Bills need to be payed. COD may have been released early to keep the project/business running. They need to play politics to survive. They need to eat. Two years ago the frenzy that was created with the rumors that Storm Of War may be close to release would have made the bean counters pretty confidant they would survive an early release of the game with all its faults. The project might now have the finances to continue with IL2s evolution.

I for one hope Maddox Games can achieve their goals and they are "huge goals". Buying a cutting edge game as a work in progress for me is better than not having the game at all. I wish the developers all the best. In the end we will all be the winners.
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Old 01-30-2012, 03:49 PM
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One thing was promised by Oleg (may I dare to say "Oleg"&"promise"? ), and it's sorely missing: reflections on distant objects, helping to spot EA's. Yesterday I was flying on a 747-400, high above Macedonia, Black Sea, Afghanistan etc., and a bright reflection from a glass surface in a distant village glowed from at least 20 km afar.

Afaik Oleg said that the effect was overdone and needed refining, but currently there is none.

BlackSix, will we see canopy reflections from afar?

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One thing was promised by Oleg (may I dare to say "Oleg"&"promise"? ), and it's sorely missing: reflections on distant objects, helping to spot EA's. Yesterday I was flying on a 747-400, high above Macedonia, Black Sea, Afghanistan etc., and a bright reflection from a glass surface in a distant village glowed from at least 20 km afar.

Afaik Oleg said that the effect was overdone and needed refining, but currently there is none.

BlackSix, will we see canopy reflections from afar?

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Whoa ! Insuber ! The verdict has fell down here ! WIP ! Everything was WIP ! During the last 6 years , All WIP ! Nothing but WIP ! You know what it means, don't you ? NO promises...And nothing was ever promised ! Where is the link to prove Oleg promised that ? Or anything else in fact ?!!! ?

I've been through this once you know, so I am with you on this my friend ....

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Whoa ! Insuber ! The verdict has fell down here ! WIP ! Everything was WIP ! During the last 6 years , All WIP ! Nothing but WIP ! You know what it means, don't you ? NO promises...And nothing was ever promised ! Where is the link to prove Oleg promised that ? Or anything else in fact ?!!! ?

I've been through this once you know, so I am with you on this my friend ....

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OK OK I abjure, recant and forswear, Oleg didn't promise, he just alluded to the hypothetical suspect of the probable but unconfirmed existence of occasional glints from distant planes' canopies, and only in the version of the game compiled at the time of his propositions.

Now, can we have those reflections again, BlackSix? It would be very cute ...
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Old 01-30-2012, 04:51 PM
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OK OK I abjure, recant and forswear, Oleg didn't promise, he just alluded to the hypothetical suspect of the probable but unconfirmed existence of occasional glints from distant planes' canopies, and only in the version of the game compiled at the time of his propositions.

Now, can we have those reflections again, BlackSix? It would be very cute ...
Haha! Good one !
I have a new definition for WIP now : Was It Promised ?

And Bsix will probably answer that he just can't...promise you anything

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Its a pity that devs doesnt want to tell us the ETA
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Support it or risk losing it. After all these years it would be a disaster to see the IL2 series go to the wall. The potential is so huge. No other company is willing to create WWII aerial combat with such attention to detail - both on the ground and in the air.
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That should be a two way street. Keeping your customers in the dark for months doesn't help rally folks to your cause. The last update, even though it was a bit hollow and void of any real info, was a step in the right direction. It's completely up to 1C now if this sim will succeed or fail. The ball's in their court. It seems since the modeler's have moved on to BOM that there will be no more aircraft for COD. After the new re-write is complete, it will be very important for them to release a SDK so the modders can take COD to the next level, IMO.
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That should be a two way street. Keeping your customers in the dark for months doesn't help rally folks to your cause. The last update, even though it was a bit hollow and void of any real info, was a step in the right direction. It's completely up to 1C now if this sim will succeed or fail. The ball's in their court. It seems since the modeler's have moved on to BOM that there will be no more aircraft for COD. After the new re-write is complete, it will be very important for them to release a SDK so the modders can take COD to the next level, IMO.
Things do look brighter on the update front. I'm hoping some real CloD news filters out soon.

CloD aircraft will increase over time as new theatres introduce new flyable types but it will take time for sure. I think the release of the SDK will be hugely significant and CloD development will really take off - as long as the core is stable by then.
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