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Old 03-23-2008, 12:29 PM
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I don't know what to believe! My grandfather was taken prisoner in the Eastern Front, and came back with a plane clock... I'll post later some pics of that clock. If his family has it, it might not be the same but I'll try to dig some history.
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:22 AM
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I don't know what to believe! My grandfather was taken prisoner in the Eastern Front, and came back with a plane clock... I'll post later some pics of that clock. If his family has it, it might not be the same but I'll try to dig some history.
I've read several stories of pilots taking the clock when they diched, I believe there was a shortage of clocks in the luftwaffe for some time and it was standard procedure to grab the clock if there was time.(no pun intended)

Also iirc that aircraft is restored and flyable now.
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Old 03-24-2008, 12:48 PM
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Hi..

From Flying Heritage Collections website..

The planes within the Flying Heritage Collection..
Currently Under Restoration...

Messerschmitt Bf 109E-3 "Emil"
Hawker Mk.XIIb "Hurricane"
Mitsubishi A6M3-22 "Zero-Sen" (two-seat field modification)
Focke Wulf FW 190A-5 "Butcherbird"...
Republic P-47D "Thunderbolt"
Goodyear FG-1D "Corsair"
North American B-25J "Mitchell"
Boeing B-17E "Flying Fortress"
Messerschmitt Me 262A-1a "Schwalbe"
V-2
Ilyushin IL-2M-3 "Shturmovik"...
P-38J "Lightning"
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Old 03-24-2008, 07:34 PM
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V-2
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flyable?

I saw one in the "German Technik Museum", also one of those guided air-to-air missiles we have now in IL2. They are pretty big. They also have models showing development of US and russian rockets with relative size starting from V-2. Oh man, the Saturn V was unbelievable big.

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Old 03-24-2008, 01:09 PM
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I've read several stories of pilots taking the clock when they diched, I believe there was a shortage of clocks in the luftwaffe for some time and it was standard procedure to grab the clock if there was time.(no pun intended)
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Good to know, thank you!
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Old 03-25-2008, 03:22 PM
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Incredible pictures! imagine just walking in a forrest and bumping into that

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I've read several stories of pilots taking the clock when they diched, I believe there was a shortage of clocks in the luftwaffe for some time and it was standard procedure to grab the clock if there was time.(no pun intended)

Also iirc that aircraft is restored and flyable now.
LOL!
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Old 03-26-2008, 09:49 PM
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That IS an interesting story.
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Old 03-26-2008, 11:34 PM
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Default Historical Preservation

What is the state of Russian and Ukraine law on export of war relics? I saw other videos on youtube that depict persons digging up battlefields, war dead, and other material (including vast amounts of land mines and unexploded shells). I saw one video where someone was using heavy construction cranes and large earth movers. This is not something that is typically used to carefully excavate any historical artifacts (at least not by professionals). In fact they probably destroyed or broke any artifacts they dug up.

Is there any effort to preserve these historic artifacts within the country or has capitalist greed made exporting history the "new" economy? Also, is there any discussions to preserve battlefields from these private ventures? Are there legal battles in various courts over these issues?

I would be interested to hear thoughts from those in Russia as well as any of the other former Soviet Republics.
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Old 03-27-2008, 01:50 PM
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Interesting story - reminds me of my granddad. He was captured in 1943 IIRC and imprisoned in a camp near Kiev. He managed to escape, together with a bunch of comrades and walked (!!!) all the way back to the German lines.
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Old 08-11-2010, 12:29 AM
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Thank you for sharing!

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