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Old 01-25-2012, 03:01 PM
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Come on, the patch has been released for 13 days. The problem isn't that servers didn't upgrade. It was actually those players who didn't want to upgrade. There are already quite some popular servers upgraded to 4.11m. Why didn't those players upgrade?

As for your attitude towards those veterans. How can you conclude that they didn't provide supports for those nice servers? So you think that if a server gets well supported, it will be cheater free? I fail to see the logics here.

I'll give you the reason why they didn't set up servers of their own:

CRT=2 is not a perfect solution.

Leave alone the debate whether it can be bypassed or not. CRT=2 requires server and client has the same operating system and same locale settings. This limitation will bring down a well populated server to nearly an empty one in no time. Because IL2 players are from all over the world. Their Windows version and locale settings variy A LOOOOT. You can try to imagine how many combinations there might be.

So it is the mods and the not-so-perfect anti-cheat solution drove those enthusiasts away. Understood?

I started flying online since 2004 and I flew Luftwaffe exclusively. I have used many different callsigns.

Finally, my suggestion to you:

Be more respectful to one who possesses a different point of view from you, his opinion is very likely to be correct. And also be respectful to those who have devoted all their time and energy to one thing that they love. They leave it not because they hate it, nor did they want to escape, but because they love it more than any other else.
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Old 01-25-2012, 03:11 PM
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As for your attitude towards those veterans. How can you conclude that they didn't provide supports for those nice servers? So you think that if a server gets well supported, it will be cheater free? I fail to see the logics here.

If you can't trust your fellows in mindset that you fly with for years and years to not be cheaters there is very little sense of community present and therefor I call you off for having any devotion for the subject at hand at all.

It would be logical that if you fly on a server you and your friends fund and play on day in and day out, that there would be zero chance for one of them ever being a "cheater".

How you can't see the logic in that is absolutely beyond me.
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Old 01-25-2012, 03:12 PM
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No one is flying online because...no one is flying online
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Old 01-25-2012, 03:17 PM
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LOL. Have you ever tried flying as a team in realistic servers before?

What if you and your friends want to improve their skills or want to give some bad asses a lesson?

IL-2 is also a competition game, dude.

Let me guess. You must be a dedicated offline player.
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Old 01-25-2012, 04:40 PM
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Nothing wrong with playing offline!
But in point of fact something like Spits V 109 mod is the equal to if not greater than any of the old servers.
More maps with more planes to accurately recreate more scenarios. Ive got quite a bit of time in it with the guys I fly with, and have yet to see this "cheating" that has apparently become so rampant...
But I would make silly claims too if I had never tried the servers. Easy to decry what you know nothing about.
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Old 01-25-2012, 04:46 PM
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I didn't say anything bad about offline players, did I?

Sorry, but I tend to like more organized and integral mods managed by TD.
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Old 01-25-2012, 04:58 PM
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. CRT=2 requires server and client has the same operating system and same locale settings. This limitation will bring down a well populated server to nearly an empty one in no time. Because IL2 players are from all over the world. Their Windows version and locale settings variy A LOOOOT. You can try to imagine how many combinations there might be.
It just checks your il2 directory.
I can join the same server with XP32 or W764u.

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Old 01-25-2012, 05:12 PM
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Mind your words, Mr. self-proclaimed IL2 expert.
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Old 01-25-2012, 05:26 PM
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Well, in that case, he is right - CRT isn't related to the used OS.
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Old 01-25-2012, 05:38 PM
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So it only checks IL2 directory? Then why did I have to change locale in order to play in some CRT=2 servers? It was clearly stated in the readme file when it was introduced in 4.08m patch that different OS will be treated as cheats. And Oleg has emphasized this many times before.
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