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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

View Poll Results: When will the next beta patch be released?
thursday!!! 1 0.74%
this friday 18 13.24%
during next week 15 11.03%
during the week after the next week 12 8.82%
in three weeks 9 6.62%
after a month 12 8.82%
two months 2 1.47%
three months 5 3.68%
this year, hopefully.. 20 14.71%
in two weeks 42 30.88%
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Old 01-21-2012, 08:24 PM
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ive spent 1500 quid on a PC on the stories we was told about CLOD and how it would be.
Check out philip.ed's quote in my sig.. Even he admits we recived what was advertised.

As for 'stories' about what CoD would be..

Well they are just that..

Stories.

Combine that with peoples ability to blow things out of proportion and expect the moon and it is easy to see why some people are so upset..

That is to say that is a good 'reason' for them to be upset, but that is not a good 'excuse' for them to be upset.
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Old 01-21-2012, 08:30 PM
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Oleg himself said the AI would be much improved over IL2. its not...its much much worse.
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Old 01-21-2012, 08:32 PM
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OK lets not go over the same stuff over and over again.
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OK lets not go over the same stuff over and over again.
Given the number of times you have posted this request... jeez... what a hypocrite
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Both camps are guilty of complaining, most of them visible here on the boards. And then there are those that can use this game, but who use PM to luthier to complain of the aircraft shake...and so the game suffers
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Oleg himself said the AI would be much improved over IL2. its not...its much much worse.
The AI in this game has some serious quirks, the mad rolling, especially with the big birds obviously noteworthy. But anybody comparing AI behaviour by taking a spin in quick missions will immidiatly notice the AI IS much improved. In IL2 I just had to go into a gentle bank and the AI would happily spend all it's ammo happily shooting into nothingness. Try the same here and ouch. The AI also does some really good scissoring and in general is a much greater challenge then in the old Il2.
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Old 01-21-2012, 09:16 PM
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Bewolf the AI do exactly the same thing in CLOD.
ive stopped playing single player because of the AI.
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Old 01-21-2012, 09:19 PM
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A perfect example of what I said wrt DMs

AI like DMs.. opinions abound
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The AI in this game has some serious quirks, the mad rolling, especially with the big birds obviously noteworthy.
This can be changes in a mission now: FMB > airgroup properties > AI > Advanced combat manoeuvres slider. If set to 30-50% it fixes crazy rolling.

I guess bombers use fighter settings now which is wrong of cause and has to be fixed.

Octocat takes this into account in his dynamic campaign generator mentioned here http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=590

In general AI was completely reworked compared to Il-2 and has much better foundation but needs fine tuning.
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Old 01-21-2012, 09:28 PM
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Atraos what setting stops your wingmen crashing into ground as you land? or the setting that stops whole sqds from reacting while been shot at?

If the AI was as good as you say, why are they rewriting it? remember they have hired a new AI guy and asked for the flightsim community to help.
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