The Crystal Ball

[philip.ed]

Aces, you're taking it too far. Lawsuits? No-one is going to take 1C to court based on Oleg and Luthier's posts on this forum.

But you weren't around when those posts were made. If you bought the game based on the website and the box, then of course (as a customer) you don't have many reasons to grumble about content.

But as a forum member who was frequently in contact with Oleg and saw his posts about what would be included in the game, then one would have every-reason to feel misled. When I was talking to Oleg privately about the flight-kit modelled in the game, he told me that all my criticisms would be taken on board (following revision they did following information I sent them). This never happened. I won't grumble about something so petty, but it's quite symbolical of the way this game turned out.

You can sit there telling people they are wrong to think a certain way in as many forms as you wish. The truth is that people did buy the game based on the aforementioned, and the truth is that a lot of fans felt let-down. You can't escape this.

What I don't understand, though, is the need for people to prove this to you. Why would a lot of people lie about their motives for purchasing the game? Oleg's posts may have been taken too seriously, but until the announcement he was stepping down he was tangibly related to the game. It seemed official enough.

+1

Calm and rational is the way to do it, as above. The game itself in its present state says enough. Ultimately the more vociferous defender-of-the-faith fans must deal with that, and not the critics. No amount of pretending one is the other is going to achieve anything.

The various game modules have an uncanny way of popping up and saying' sorry, I dont work just yet' depsite what the faithful defenders may say.

The problem is, it's still a dawn chorus.

Ben

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

No-one is going to take 1C to court based on Oleg and Luthier's posts on this forum.

Bingo

Originally Posted by philip.ed

If you bought the game based on the website and the box, then of course (as a customer) you don't have many reasons to grumble about content.

Agreed 100%

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Aces, you're taking it too far. Lawsuits? No-one is going to take 1C to court based on Oleg and Luthier's posts on this forum.

But you weren't around when those posts were made. If you bought the game based on the website and the box, then of course (as a customer) you don't have many reasons to grumble about content.

But as a forum member who was frequently in contact with Oleg and saw his posts about what would be included in the game, then one would have every-reason to feel misled. When I was talking to Oleg privately about the flight-kit modelled in the game, he told me that all my criticisms would be taken on board (following revision they did following information I sent them). This never happened. I won't grumble about something so petty, but it's quite symbolical of the way this game turned out.

You can sit there telling people they are wrong to think a certain way in as many forms as you wish. The truth is that people did buy the game based on the aforementioned, and the truth is that a lot of fans felt let-down. You can't escape this.

What I don't understand, though, is the need for people to prove this to you. Why would a lot of people lie about their motives for purchasing the game? Oleg's posts may have been taken too seriously, but until the announcement he was stepping down he was tangibly related to the game. It seemed official enough.

Hmm.

Well it was the same in the IL2 Series, years of research and direct contact but nothing corrected or added after many e-mails with aircraft data in black and white from the manufacturer, the Russian data was the data they were sticking with, (the FW 190A8 with the Stuka prop data was the funniest though), and still we have aircraft not reaching altitude performance figures after 10 years of the same old stuff.

It's a waste of time unless there's complete public outcry unfortunately nothings listened to it would seem.

Chin up though it will soon be all fixed.