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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 01-17-2012, 05:50 AM
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Sorry but "common sense" "rumors" and "strongly suggested" don't make it a quantified fact as you make it out to be. Unless you really know what their financials are and can back it up, your just guessing so maybe you should phrase your statement as such. We don't know what Ubi kicked in, residual sales from 1946, other endevours etc. so lets not make them out to be on the brink of disaster unless we know, could do more harm then good
Its unfortunate that you can't see the honest speculation in some of my posts.

Common sense tells me the developer wouldn't risk releasing an unfinished product, unless it was absolutley necessary, knowing full well the negative publicity that would garner. Especially when they had plans to continue the series.

We know that the development has been delayed for years and that couldn't continue. Investors are simple not willing to carry a project that long.
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Old 01-17-2012, 06:11 AM
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Bugs are expected and are one thing.
missing or non working features are another.
features that still dont work after 8 months are still another thing.

Features that have to wait 2 years and to pay for a sequel is a...well make up your own mind.
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Old 01-17-2012, 06:17 AM
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Its unfortunate that you can't see the honest speculation in some of my posts.

Common sense tells me the developer wouldn't risk releasing an unfinished product, unless it was absolutley necessary, knowing full well the negative publicity that would garner. Especially when they had plans to continue the series.

We know that the development has been delayed for years and that couldn't continue. Investors are simple not willing to carry a project that long.
That's just it Chivas. I see it as speculation, you were telling us all it was a fact with the way you stated it. I just thought maybe you had something that backed it up as fact. I thought maybe UBI was pressuring 1C to just release the darn thing after 6 years of waiting or maybe they would pull out of distribution or something. Whatever man, just think maybe you should throw in a "IMO" if you don't really know.
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Old 01-17-2012, 08:17 AM
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That's just it Chivas. I see it as speculation, you were telling us all it was a fact with the way you stated it. I just thought maybe you had something that backed it up as fact. I thought maybe UBI was pressuring 1C to just release the darn thing after 6 years of waiting or maybe they would pull out of distribution or something. Whatever man, just think maybe you should throw in a "IMO" if you don't really know.
Ok I'll share some insider information with you. If you don't see Luthiers name as the poster its more than likely speculation.
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Old 01-17-2012, 08:26 AM
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Ok I'll share some insider information with you. If you don't see Luthiers name as the poster its more than likely speculation.
Whoa...hold the phone. You mean that 99.99% of us in here might be full of B.S.? I think you might be on to something here...let me get a piece of paper...I gotta write this down.
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Ok I'll share some insider information with you. If you don't see Luthiers name as the poster its more than likely speculation.
Actually, much of what Luthier says is speculation. A recent example is his claim that the new engine will deliver not less than 50% performance increase, followed by, we dont know what sort of increase, and lastly - the wheel fell off and we don't know what happened. He is a lovely guy, but does tend to struggle with mission goals and project forecasts.
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Probably get banned for replying to that lol
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Old 01-17-2012, 08:19 AM
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That's just it Chivas. I see it as speculation, you were telling us all it was a fact with the way you stated it. I just thought maybe you had something that backed it up as fact. I thought maybe UBI was pressuring 1C to just release the darn thing after 6 years of waiting or maybe they would pull out of distribution or something. Whatever man, just think maybe you should throw in a "IMO" if you don't really know.
IMHO, I dont think UBI were involved until nearer the end, I remember Oleg making a post saying that he had found a publisher and he would let them announce who they were, if UBI were always involved then the post would have been pointless unless Oleg was playing some kind of mind games.
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