4.11 F4U Performance

[IvanK]

Discuss the F4U performance here please rather than in the General Debug thread.

[sawyer692]

Consistent crashes to desktop after hosting for just a few minutes.

Also, F4U is nerfed! This is my squad's primary fighter and it is now a sluggish chunk of metal in the sky that overheats 2 minutes after takeoff. Takes a very long time to get up to speed. Any chance of putting is back to what it was?

The rest of the patch is spot on and I applaud the work TD does

[CWMV]

How does your tested performance of the F4U compare to real world numbers?

[Shaker]

I agree about the F4U, that is a disgrace to the plane IMO.

[IvanK]

Originally Posted by Shaker

I agree about the F4U, that is a disgrace to the plane IMO.

Could you post your Results and the data you are using as a reference Shaker. Exactly what is the problem ?

[Shaker]

Originally Posted by sawyer692

Consistent crashes to desktop after hosting for just a few minutes.

Also, F4U is nerfed! This is my squad's primary fighter and it is now a sluggish chunk of metal in the sky that overheats 2 minutes after takeoff. Takes a very long time to get up to speed. Any chance of putting is back to what it was?

The rest of the patch is spot on and I applaud the work TD does

According to Sawyer the F4U is nerfed. It's slow and overheats easily. After reading this thread I won't be installing this patch so you may want to refer to Sawyer692 and his findings on the Corsair.

The AI tweaks sounded impressive but this CTD issue and from what I have heard from my squad about the Corsair is quite disappointing.

[SturmKreator]

Originally Posted by sawyer692

Consistent crashes to desktop after hosting for just a few minutes.

Also, F4U is nerfed! This is my squad's primary fighter and it is now a sluggish chunk of metal in the sky that overheats 2 minutes after takeoff. Takes a very long time to get up to speed. Any chance of putting is back to what it was?

The rest of the patch is spot on and I applaud the work TD does

this is a simulator not a arcadish game, in the oleg worlds was a lot of mistakes, now TD fix them, if you dont like it, you can leave the sim, my fw190 was nerfed much more, now never reach the 730km/h but is a simulator not a blazing angels. Now I have to learn how to fight again.

TD you rock.

[h0MbrE]

Here is the data on the F4U-1 and others. Hopefully this will clarify things. It's pretty "cut and dry" that it is now way under modeled in the sim.


http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...4u-1-02334.pdf

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...f4u-1d-acp.pdf

The whole article for all the Corsairs:
http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/f4u/f4u.html

Pretty much every other airplane:

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/

[IvanK]

Originally Posted by h0MbrE

Here is the data on the F4U-1 and others. Hopefully this will clarify things. It's pretty "cut and dry" that it is now way under modeled in the sim.


http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...4u-1-02334.pdf

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...f4u-1d-acp.pdf

The whole article for all the Corsairs:
http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/f4u/f4u.html

Pretty much every other airplane:

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/

"that it is now way under modeled in the sim"

How so ? How about some examples in Game compared directly with the performance from the references shown ? How does this also compare with 4.10.1 ?

[sawyer692]

Well, after a couple hours testing, here is what I found (F4U-C):


Speed- 100% fuel, 100% prop, appropriate supercharger settings

3000ft
4.101 -271kias
4.11 - 250kias

20,000ft
4.101 – 222kias
4.11 - 160kias



Carrier takeoff – carrier 28 knots, 100%fuel, 100% prop, takeoff flap setting, speed is from chocks release to clearing bow threshold

4.101- 96kias
4.11 – Upper 80s kias

Carrier takeoff – carrier 16 knots, 100%fuel, 100% prop, takeoff flap setting, speed is from chocks release to clearing bow threshold

4.101 – 85kias
4.11 - upper 70s kias

Carrier with ordinance

Rockets minus 10kias from 4.101
5x500 lb bombs minus 10kias from 4.101
2x1000 lb bombs minus 10 from 4.101 but dipped way below carrier and drug landing gear



Speed to 260kias, from standstill on runway, flying straight and level at 150ft

4.101 – 1min 15secs
4.11 – 1min 45secs


Some of the speed numbers in 4.101 are more precise due to the hud mod (the only mod on my sim)

Granted some of the differences may be slight on a few of the items but "feel" much greater in the sim. Either way, it is a slower aircraft now.

I have to ask; What did you guys do to the FM? I found nothing in the manual.