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Old 12-30-2011, 12:05 PM
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what??

i flew 109 exclusively for 1 or 2 years, and that beast si a killign machine. unless oyu are going for really late war, 109 can kill the hell off vvs
not very really late war, in 1943 for example. What are you going to do in 109G6 when you meet a L5FN @3000m with same energy status? I fly 109 from 2002. I do not think I am a bad pilot.
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Old 12-30-2011, 12:12 PM
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not very really late war, in 1943 for example. What are you going to do in 109G6 when you meet a L5FN @3000m with same energy status? I fly 109 from 2002. I do not think I am a bad pilot.
i run away.

as a matter of fact. if i meat anything Co-alt i will most likely run away.
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Old 12-30-2011, 12:37 PM
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i run away.

as a matter of fact. if i meat anything Co-alt i will most likely run away.
So the fact is that 109 can only perfrom hit and run fight from 1943 onward. could you please teach me what is the standard of the killing machine if you call she is. no offensive here, but I really need to relearn how to use it.
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Old 12-30-2011, 01:54 PM
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Only attack when you have a major altitude advantage.

Only attack from astern with that altitude advantage.

Never turn with your opponent.

Never ever engage co-altitude or co-energy.

Only attack n00bs if possible.


That's how Hartmann did it.
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Old 12-30-2011, 01:55 PM
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So the fact is that 109 can only perfrom hit and run fight from 1943 onward. could you please teach me what is the standard of the killing machine if you call she is. no offensive here, but I really need to relearn how to use it.
not offended.

The 109G6 vs la5fn and yak 9d ( or B , the uber one) scenario it is familair for me. i play aroudn 200 missions 1 hour long in such. our planeset was 2 FW mdoels and 2 109s models. so 25% of th eitme luck draw me a 109g6. Let me tell you those were the worst and hardest missions.

i would come in high ( 6000 meters or so. and check the area, usually rushing the objective, or an intereption point ( if we were escorting bombers or intercepting) to make sure i was the highst bloke around. thsi worked preatty well. if i found them on time i would be high were they arent expect me to be whilst still climbing. BnZ till i loose my advantage ( offensive BnZ, not the slow paced one) and then dive for a lower altitude hoping they would follow me to a lower alt, were they would have a nice pack of 190s waiting for some meat. I woudl usually do this alone, not becouse im good. but a single fighter was harder to spot, i could go faster and all that lone wolf stuff.

tech data? i would stay relatively slow. i wouldnt go over 700 kmh in hte dive. shallow dives, 30 - 45º, i would aim my passes so i was level while shooting, and would loop at about 200 km/h. this blees a lot more energy on the loop phase, but keeps saves a lot in the dive.

but this is me hunting.

when defensively ( same level, surprised, no friends around) i would dive away to 0 km. i was slightly faster there. and i could dive better. if he still manage to get me, i would drag him to scissors. its a desperate move but if he falls for it, i win, if he doesnt im in some trouble, but still possible to work around.

my K/d ratio on 109 g 6was about 2 /3 - 1. but in this plane i was more prone to accidents. and i died a lot in bombing sorties.


I used to love that campaign.. .the good old days

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Old 12-30-2011, 02:26 PM
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Could you open a separat thread for such discussions please? This is already a cramped place. Thanks!
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