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Old 12-29-2011, 01:27 PM
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I saw you request for ifnormation so here we are :

When I give joystick input, you could compare how instantaneous the controls and the in-game command column reacts.
The control column is about 200 ms late from actual joystick movement and it will capture about 5 fresh positions per second.

This happens constantly, any time. It can be detected when the game runs very smoothly as fps are very high yet the column fresh position moves are slow.

I am currently using Saitek X52 under Windows 7.
AMD Phenom 4 cores and Nvidia 260.

Thanks to keep us informed.

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Old 12-29-2011, 02:25 PM
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Hi

I saw you request for ifnormation so here we are :

When I give joystick input, you could compare how instantaneous the controls and the in-game command column reacts.
The I.G.C.C. is about 200 ms late from actual joystick movement and it will capture about 5 fresh positions per second.

This happens constantly, any time. It can be detected when the game runs very smoothly as fps are very high yet the column fresh position moves are slow.

I am currently using Saitek X52 under Windows 7.
AMD Phenom 4 cores and Nvidia 260.

Thanks to keep us informed.
Just a shot in the dark, but have you tried changing your vsync setting? I somehow remember there being an issue in iRacing with control lag for some when vsync was set one way or the other... just a thought.
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Old 12-29-2011, 05:00 PM
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By lag I call for not like a direct response. This is not very laggy, there is just a small decay, and the refresh rate too is not perfectly smooth.

This means that in a tight dogfight where the fraction of a second count we're late.
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Old 12-29-2011, 05:34 PM
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I notice zero lag or anyting in my joystick input.

G940 here.
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Old 12-30-2011, 03:29 PM
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no lag, Saitek X52 Pro...
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Old 01-01-2012, 10:36 PM
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http://youtu.be/3CyDxwKyQdg

Game running 30+ FPS
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Old 02-19-2012, 10:39 AM
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Hi

Could it be Windows 7 using the USB port at v1 speed instead of 2.0 ?

Has anyone solved the issue with Win7 using USB as legacy 1.0 ?

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Old 02-19-2012, 11:05 AM
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USB v 1.0 or v 2.0 or v 3.0 is determined by hardware, windows has no influence over it.
In case of a joystick, 1.0 or 2.0 doesn´t matter, the amount of information transferred is so small that even v1.0 is bored to death.
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Old 02-19-2012, 04:47 PM
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Could it be Windows 7 using the USB port at v1 speed instead of 2.0 ?

Has anyone solved the issue with Win7 using USB as legacy 1.0 ?

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Hi jf1981,

I don't think that this is the issue, but just incase; Windows will tell you in a popup over the system tray if a USB port is running at 1.0/1.1 when it should be 2.0. You may want to head into your BIOS/EFI and check your USB settings. Make sure that USB 2.0 is enabled. Also, make sure the joystick is plugged into a dedicated port, I would avoid a USB hub; at least while you troubleshoot. Although it sounds like something else is going on.

I don't own a Saitek X52, but if you go into the Saitek software or Windows [Devices and Printers -> Right click on your joystick -> Game Controller Settings -> Properties] and move your joystick around, is there any input delay there? Are there any other games you have to test your joystick in besides ClOD?

Also, this may seem silly to ask, but do you have the latest Saitek drivers/software from their website installed?

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Old 02-22-2012, 07:38 AM
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I also suffer from it. I wouldnt call it joystick lag, becouse it is more like a general input lag. It has an effect on every control input, the mouse the joystick even the trackIR.
I bought a new config and ever since that it is less noticable. I have also learned to live with it, but it is deffinitely there.
I use i7 2600K + 570Ti + 16Gb RAM + TM cougar if it matters.
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