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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 12-24-2011, 01:53 AM
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I was so happy for this update. I still am, despite the "was"


Thanks for the update!!

I got laid off earlier this week, yeah merry christmas. 2 years ago was looking at the same thing. out of all my friends only 1/4 are working. out of those working, 95% one has seen a raise or bonus in 2 years. the others are in places that are impervious to the economy (or are rich and balling like Kim Kard)

So its bad.


I saw some the answers given . . . and wow the negativity is rolling fast, I think by page 2 or 3 the complaints were starting to surface, no wait it was page 1 !!

Anycase I realized that the devs had taken a major hit with ClOd. The economy really bites here in the US. And it probably does across the pond. Its a good they have enough to work on a sequel, and if they know it will sell fast locally to generate some cash.

Have to understand, there's that element of working from scratch (Oleg's gone, and well the code he had, he probably took)

But the game is rolling. Guys and gals, we will have a successor worthy of IL-2 in a few years.

I know many aren't going to be patient but once the arcade of world of planes and world of plane craft, and world of war plane wears off, and rise of flight has zeppelins and now the word war I guys get to laugh at the ww2 guys and the ww2 simmers in anger (well justly so since red baron of years ago was gone . . . and Il-2 glory days came )

everyones going to turn back to here, to Il-2 COD and its successors.

Remember Christmas is about lots of things and be thankful this season.

Woot and we are getting the communication we asked for. it may not what we want to hear but . . . we getting some.




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Old 12-24-2011, 02:42 AM
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That's strange, because when I've met a SpitIIa at altitude in my E4 saying there's only 2 of us on the server, it's the best dogfighting I've ever had in the game. Throw some teamwork in the mix and they'll run home to momma.

Btw, late at night is usually when I fly.
Post tracks or videos, then. I had Spit 2's outclimbing me easily at 8000 metres.
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Old 12-24-2011, 02:51 AM
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Well I'm feeling pretty positive about things and I really don't see where all the negativity is coming from.

Facts....

1. We are getting a sequel, and that is a very good thing. Let's not forget how much we NEED this sim to live on and develop...just like IL2. No one else is going to give us what we crave for with such exquisite detail.

2. CloD will continue to be patched and I'm sure some very nice improvements will arrive in short order.

3. CloD will be reborn when merged with the new title....all the new goodies will magically be available to us to use in the skies over the channel. That is fantastic news...although I didn't doubt that's the way it would be done.

4. The BoM release will be hugely popular with the home market and I'm sure many over here will snap it up too - lots of lovely ground pounding and hopefully vast areas to fly over due to the sparse object density. That's got to be a good thing for the series with a fresh cash injection to make it even better.


I really fail to see why so many are on such a downer? The game will improve and the future looks bright. Just look what they did with the sounds. Now imagine the same job applied to the graphics, FM, AI.......

What we paid for this is NOTHING, ZILCH, DIDDLY SQUAT....compared to what we willingly fork out for PC, joystick etc. Just look how much you can spend on TrackIR alone! Let's get this in perspective before ranting on like it's a defective 30 grand BMW.

Please, give the guys a break and start appreciating what we have and what they're trying to give us (if we let them). Support them. They really are on our side. I'm a programmer and I know how much blood and sweat you have to put into such complex software. It really is incredibly hard to produce something like CloD and with a community like ours it's a real thankless task.

As my favourite character would say...have a little faith baby, have a little faith.
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Old 12-24-2011, 03:02 AM
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To all of you, the devs, the fanboys and the pessimists- have a good Xmas.
I've had fun with this game since I purchased the pre-release early this year. It's not all I want it to be but it's still a generation ahead of il2.
I'll see you in the new year with high hopes that BoM will be bigger and better, and look forward to the backwards compatible fixes that will make CoD much better and more stable.

Remember guys, we are the weirdo freaks who like to play war in a flight sim, and there are not too many of us in the world. Too many people pay approx $100usd for FPS's that rakes in billions of $'s, while most of what I see on these forums is people whining about spending half that on a game developed by a small crew of dedicated guys.
If you spend half as much time playing as you do bitching on these forums, you are getting your money's worth.
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Old 12-24-2011, 03:50 AM
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When a sniper gunner of IL-2 1946 kill me i love CloD more.

Simple as that. It's evolution baby!
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Old 12-24-2011, 04:10 AM
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I have a sneaky suspicion that were are going to be paying for a new version and the first release was just that, a beta.

The next evolution release will have 2 maps, Channel map, Northeastern front and more planes and better graphics.
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Having read the original post and Luthiers subsequent comments I'm not impressed. I might be less vocal than others round here but I look behind me and see every IL2 sim released, all bought asap and top dollar, in addition to that I don't know how many copies of 'old IL2' I have bought as gifts but its got to be double figures.

I will not buy a sequel to this game unless it is so cheap it falls in the same category as throwing an impulse bar of choclate in the basket on the way out of the supermarket and I see I am not alone. On that basis this company has a problem, and a big one at that.
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Old 12-24-2011, 04:30 AM
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Having read the original post and Luthiers subsequent comments I'm not impressed. I might be less vocal than others round here but I look behind me and see every IL2 sim released, all bought asap and top dollar, in addition to that I don't know how many copies of 'old IL2' I have bought as gifts but its got to be double figures.

I will not buy a sequel to this game unless it is so cheap it falls in the same category as throwing an impulse bar of choclate in the basket on the way out of the supermarket and I see I am not alone. On that basis this company has a problem, and a big one at that.
Nah, I bet you'll buy it the first change you get "IF" the reviews are positive. Oh, and you'll pay top dollar for it! Just like myself and all the other flightsim junkies out there.

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Bitching about the $50 we're being charged to play the game we plundered our kids college funds for...Priceless! (I know, I know, I bitch with the best of em.)

Merry Christmas to the 1C team and the fellow sim junkies out there!

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Old 12-24-2011, 05:16 AM
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Its unfortunate the new game engine is taking so long to get right, and has certainly garnered alot of hate. Once the game engine gets sorted everything should start falling in place and the hatred wane.
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Old 12-24-2011, 05:30 AM
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Well I'm feeling pretty positive about things and I really don't see where all the negativity is coming from.

Facts....

1. We are getting a sequel, and that is a very good thing. Let's not forget how much we NEED this sim to live on and develop...just like IL2. No one else is going to give us what we crave for with such exquisite detail.

2. CloD will continue to be patched and I'm sure some very nice improvements will arrive in short order.

3. CloD will be reborn when merged with the new title....all the new goodies will magically be available to us to use in the skies over the channel. That is fantastic news...although I didn't doubt that's the way it would be done.

4. The BoM release will be hugely popular with the home market and I'm sure many over here will snap it up too - lots of lovely ground pounding and hopefully vast areas to fly over due to the sparse object density. That's got to be a good thing for the series with a fresh cash injection to make it even better.


I really fail to see why so many are on such a downer? The game will improve and the future looks bright. Just look what they did with the sounds. Now imagine the same job applied to the graphics, FM, AI.......

What we paid for this is NOTHING, ZILCH, DIDDLY SQUAT....compared to what we willingly fork out for PC, joystick etc. Just look how much you can spend on TrackIR alone! Let's get this in perspective before ranting on like it's a defective 30 grand BMW.

Please, give the guys a break and start appreciating what we have and what they're trying to give us (if we let them). Support them. They really are on our side. I'm a programmer and I know how much blood and sweat you have to put into such complex software. It really is incredibly hard to produce something like CloD and with a community like ours it's a real thankless task.

As my favourite character would say...have a little faith baby, have a little faith.
This is how I see it exactly.

Consider this: What if 1C would stop the flight sim development altogether and switched to developing more mass appealing and more lucrative games partly because too demaning crowd and too niche to get moneys worth of effort.

Way I see this CloD and sequels, we are on a similiar evolving path like we had on IL-2, generally every development step forward were benefical to previous instalment of the product and completed the overall simulation to be more perfect.

1C is not the main stream "burger game" developer like Call of Duty developer with gazzillions of resources. They have to allocate the scarce resources they have to develop things which have most bang for the buck to step forward on the big picture to be more complete air warfare simulation.

I'm affaid this takes time and lot of patience on us the customers to wait the completion or even the intermediate steps to get implemented.

I wish you all very relaxing and merry X-mas!
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