Fresh stuff from sukhoi.ru (Discussion)

[Flanker35M]

S!

I call it Sissyfire, done so for ages. And if you lose to a Bf109E-4, if engaging from same alt and E, in the game at it's CURRENT state then should fly something else. Sissyfire II outperforms Bf109E-4 easily and if you are even an average shooter you get a lot of critical hits on a Bf109E with those 8 x .303cal at convergence.

I fly mostly 110 these days and in that crate can not outfly nor outperform anyone except maybe bombers. Still manage to get a fair share of targets down and even return home in one piece. It calls for planning and SA when going for the attack

On ATAG it is fun and the Bomber Night even more so. Can't wait to get the GFX update and at some point the physics/FM/DM updates to CoD. Then we have a true gem

[FG28_Kodiak]

Cliffs of Dover = Planeset Discussion Reloaded

[addman]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Heh.

I don't fly Blue that often, but when I do it's usually in the G.50 or the E1.
The EI has a ton of ammo. Wow.

Now if the Cr.42 was made flyable, it would be nothing but (vintage Classico Reserva) Chianti, pasta primavera, and open cockpits for this flying Pig.

In all seriousness, all the planes have advantages and dis-advantages in varying proportion. Even the two "uber planes" of the set, the E4 and Spit IIa are really far from "uber" and both die with regularity.

The tactics used to employ them are far more important.

Yes, the E1 is my favorite 109, insane ammo amount and pretty effective with adjusted convergence. Can't stand the slow rate of fire on the other 109's.

[CWMV]

Wait...people actually think the E-4 is uber?
Lol!
Depending on the source its from 30-50kph too slow!
Uber my hind end. It's sad that the FM' s are in their current state. Half the reason I spend more time in Spits v 109's now.

[furbs]

equal energy states the spit 2 is far and away a much better plane.
So far ahead its not even worth talking about, if you cant see that you are either a idiot or a arse.

[ElAurens]

A. There are almost no Spit IIs to fly.

B. I've put up with you lying/propagandist Luftwhiners for ten freaking years.
We all know your game, no sense trying to even hide your intent.

C. In the current iteration there is no RAF aircraft that can compete with the E4, any advantage the Spitfire should have is simply not there, except for the IIa, which of course is limited to FOUR aircraft on ONE server.

D. Now you guys are gaming the game and using the autopilot on the Bf 110 to achieve speeds without overheat that are totally unrealistic.


Go cry me a river.

[335th_GRAthos]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

D. Now you guys are gaming the game and using the autopilot on the Bf 110 to achieve speeds without overheat that are totally unrealistic.

He, he, he, sorry ElAurens, please do not fall into the trap and take the stupidity xxxxx wrote for real (I had an excellent discussion with him in the other forum).

This ME110 autopilot achievement is complete rubbish that somebody with absolutely no knowledge of Blue planes (xxxxx's own words) wrote.
I know, because I was the pilot flying the ME110 on course-autopilot. Point.

So let us be careful and avoid building towers in the sand when there is no factual information behind...

I regret I was not fast enough stopping the culprit in his tracks thus you became victim of his missinformation.

~S~

[Insuber]

No really, gimme a break, we don't need a blue vs. red querelle now! Everyone is complaining, so it's not so unbalanced.

[CWMV]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

A. There are almost no Spit IIs to fly.

B. I've put up with you lying/propagandist Luftwhiners for ten freaking years.
We all know your game, no sense trying to even hide your intent.

C. In the current iteration there is no RAF aircraft that can compete with the E4, any advantage the Spitfire should have is simply not there, except for the IIa, which of course is limited to FOUR aircraft on ONE server.

D. Now you guys are gaming the game and using the autopilot on the Bf 110 to achieve speeds without overheat that are totally unrealistic.


Go cry me a river.

I know, arent we terrible for wanting a sim that resembels reality?!

Come on dude, read a freakin technical release/study from Messerschmitt/RLM regarding 109 performance.
Besides in game the E-4 and E-3 perform pretty much the same. No real winner between those two.

[Flanker35M]

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El Aurens, to answer your claims in a friendly manner..


A. 5 of them at start of mission. Giving more of them, say 10-20 would totally ruin the server. Like flying a stock Bf109G-6 against Sissy IX 25lbs on 1946

B. Pot blaming the kettle I say on this. I dare to say there are very few players that can look at things without emotional attachment to their favorite plane and it's performance related to the opponent.

C. Sissy II is more than capable of trashing Bf109E-3/4. Sissy I/Ia are a bit strange as I regard the Rotol Hurricane far more deadly. Clearly a FM check is needed on ALL planes.

D. Autopilot giving me more speed? Grathos pointed out this is false information. And again, can not outfly Hurricanes or Sissies in my Bf110C-4/7. Has no magic button or boost.

This neverending blue vs red is boring to be honest. If someone would make a sim with parameters as close to RL as possible even then someone would complain if losing to a so called "inferior plane". People should forget the books and all that when flying a GAME without ANY penalties except maybe a hurt ePeen or ego.