Fresh stuff from sukhoi.ru (Discussion)

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Insuber

but I understand people who waited 8 months and don't have a working game yet. I know personally some of them.

Ok lets take a closer look..

We know for a FACT that some people have a 'working game'

And your saying you know some people who don't have a 'working game'

The FACT that some do and some don't tells 'us' that it is not an issue with the game as much as it is an 'issue' with the people you know

What the 'issue' is depends on which 'people' you talk to

On the 'reasonable' end of the scale said 'people' would define a NON WORKING GAME as one that will not start when started, thus they are unable to fly at all

On the un-reasonable' end of the scale said 'people' would define a NON WORKING GAME as one where the shade of green on the trees is not correct ITHO

Long story short the definiton of 'working game' means different things to differnt people

And with that said, I care not for those people at or near the un-reasonable end of the scale

[Friendly_flyer]

Originally Posted by flyingblind

My reading of the situation is that if they brought out a sequel now is that it would have all the underlying issues that presently exist. They are working on these issues and plan to have them sorted before the next release. In the meantime they are working on the maps and models so they are ready for the fully sorted engine. So no, I don't think they have any intention of just abandoning CloD as the code will be optimized first and then used for the Russian theatre. And no, I have no problem with spending what is a pitance on something that is being improved and developed and will give me years of real pleasure.

That's how I read it too.

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Ok lets take a closer look..

We know for a FACT that some people have a 'working game'

And your saying you know some people who don't have a 'working game'

The FACT that some do and some don't tells 'us' that it is not an issue with the game as much as it is an 'issue' with the people you know

What the 'issue' is depends on which 'people' you talk to

On the 'reasonable' end of the scale said 'people' would define a NON WORKING GAME as one that will not start when started, thus they are unable to fly at all

On the un-reasonable' end of the scale said 'people' would define a NON WORKING GAME as one where the shade of green on the trees is not correct ITHO

Long story short the definiton of 'working game' means different things to differnt people

And with that said, I care not for those people at or near the un-reasonable end of the scale

You are riding a dead horse here, my friend. The "people" I'm speaking about are long date CF simmers; one is a programmer and one of the BEST Il2 pilots I know. Three of them are Il2 instructors. The issue is simple and everyone here knows it: H/W or S/W incompatibilities make the game not running or running with serious issues/low quality, while all the other games and recent simulations, from RoF to ARMA, are running big time + top quality.

Cheers!

[Insuber]

I found a good explanation for the preference of our preferred devs for the sukhoi forum: censorship. I just tried to post, but every single post is checked and moderated before publishing. Insults and whining are very rare there ... we have our explanation, I guess.

Originally Posted by Insuber

I found a good explanation for the preference of our preferred devs for the sukhoi forum: censorship. I just tried to post, but every single post is checked and moderated before publishing. Insults and whining are very rare there ... we have our explanation, I guess.

They prefer to post where they're not being called liars? That is crazy.

[Tigertooo]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

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We know for a FACT that some people have a 'working game'

That seems to be true but if i look at those chaps who have a "working game" they mostly seem to have high end rigs to say the least ( SLI (working or not working)with cards with 3 GB DDR5, 12 to 16 Gig RAM at 1600 Mhz,240 Gig SSD etc...)
I have 6 GB RAM 1333 Mhz,Nvidia GFX 295 2.6 Gig DDR3,Intell i7-965 extreme quadcore 3.2 Ghz X 58 chipset etc. I should have been told before that with my rig, i would not be able to fly over London ,on full settings,with only 3 fps avarage,as i have. sorry

[Rather peeved]

Originally Posted by Ctrl E

Have there been any new pix over at the sukoi forum?

sukhoi, rather.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Insuber

You are riding a dead horse here, my friend.

I know.. but my hope is if I keep pointing out the fact that the game works fine for some people and not others that some of the people who are on the fence about CoD will say to themself

"Well, CoD is not the only game on the market that does not work on every PC out there"

Which says more about 'those' PC than CoD.. At which point they will feel more comfortable buying CoD knowing that the game runs fine for more people than not

Originally Posted by Insuber

The "people" I'm speaking about are long date CF simmers; one is a programmer and one of the BEST Il2 pilots I know. Three of them are Il2 instructors.

And there are CF simmers, programers, etc out there whos PCs run CoD just fine!

Just to be clear, I am not saying CoD will run fine on any PC out there! What I am saying there are PCs out there that CoD runs fine on. Since CoD runs fine on some and not others points the finger at the PC more than it does CoD

Originally Posted by Insuber

The issue is simple and everyone here knows it: H/W or S/W incompatibilities make the game not running or running with serious issues/low quality, while all the other games and recent simulations, from RoF to ARMA, are running big time + top quality.

Which is true of many games.. I know people who I play ARMA with who have to turn down the graphics setings to obtain decent FPS.. I also know guys who fly RoF who have to do the same. I also know guys in both camps that 'found something' after much tweaking of there PC that made the 'game' run better. Which brings us back to spaure one..

That being IMHO most of the issues people are having with CoD has more to do with thier PC than CoD. Only comming here you get a FILTERED impression that it is more bad than good.

Why?

Becuse most people for whom CoD runs fine on their PC are off playing CoD and not bothering with this forum. Where as people with problems come here looking for soultuions, some find them and move on, some dont. Its that simple

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Tigertooo

I should have been told before that with my rig, i would not be able to fly over London ,on full settings,with only 3 fps avarage,as i have. sorry

First.. There is an options menu where you can turn down the details to improve the FPS

Second.. As I noted, I know guys with simular rigs that say it is running fine for them.. So, this again points a finger at the PC more than it does CoD

[JG52Uther]

Issues with CoD performance can be discussed in the relevant sub forum here:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/forumdisplay.php?f=195

As it appears we are not going to hear much from Sukhoi.ru for a while now due to the new problems being found with the patch, and as it appears this thread is veering off topic again, its locked. I'm sure if there is any news someone will post it.