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[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by TUCKIE_JG52

Are you telling that propwash caused this accident? That's not what the FAA report proclaims in that concrete accident... did you read it?

I haven't said it's propwash that caused the accident, all I was pointing at are the risks related to operating warbirds in unnecessary risky manoeuvres like formation takeoffs and landings. Believe me, I've read the report again and again cos I'm friends with one of their crew chiefs.

The propwash is real, true, but it's also true that there are some ways of flying just out of it or minimise its effect:

Yeah, these guys are not pushing 1650HP on a four bladed propeller though, there's quite a difference.

[TUCKIE_JG52]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

I haven't said it's propwash that caused the accident, all I was pointing at are the risks related to operating warbirds in unnecessary risky manoeuvres like formation takeoffs and landings. Believe me, I've read the report again and again cos I'm friends with one of their crew chiefs.

Ok, then you already know that was not a formation landing. The second plane did not land for the correct runway, so he was not expecting anybody on its way.

There's some difference between a "if you try to land in formation you'll crash" and "he was not landing in formation and found another plane ahead (at less speed)".

Lined up takeoff may be a problem, I agree, but landing... you land at idle!


Anyway, we were debating about having aerobatic planes in CoD...

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by TUCKIE_JG52

Ok, then you already know that was not a formation landing. The second plane did not land for the correct runway, so he was not expecting anybody on its way.

There's some difference between a "if you try to land in formation you'll crash" and "he was not landing in formation and found another plane ahead (at less speed)".

I can't comment on this any longer on a public forum, PM me if you want to know more.

Lined up takeoff may be a problem, I agree, but landing... you land at idle!

Anyway, we were debating about having aerobatic planes in CoD...

Man, we do 2 ship take-offs with the mustangs, but NEVER attempt formation landings, it's a very very very risky business, a million things can go wrong in a big engined taildragger when coming down for landing, the last thing you want is another big plane like yours nearby. They don't chop the throttle until they're flaring, they need to be ready for a go-around and avoid torque stall.

[TUCKIE_JG52]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

I can't comment on this any longer on a public forum, PM me if you want to know more.

Thanks, I have my own fonts...

Man, we do 2 ship take-offs with the mustangs, but NEVER attempt formation landings, it's a very very very risky business, a million things can go wrong in a big engined taildragger when coming down for landing, the last thing you want is another big plane like yours nearby. They don't chop the throttle until they're flaring, they need to be ready for a go-around and avoid torque stall.

Ok, that's a procedure thing, agreed.