Why the Breda-Safat is the way it is!

[4./JG53_Task]

I don't know the validity of this guncam footage (Video: Macchi.202 shooting a P-40). I've read/heard, though, that when Italian pilots were getting hits on another plane, it was clear that they were causing a lot of damage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKE1fa6PyqI

[uf_josse]

Much probably a 109 with 20 mm cannon

[Snuff_Pidgeon]

No i have seen that footage a number of times each time states 202 vs P-40 obviously high explosive amo and causing effective damage! not like what we have in game.

[uf_josse]

they are surely not 12.7 explosions...... seems to be minengeschoss

perhaps 205 instead 202..... be sure.

[choctaw111]

Originally Posted by 4./JG53_Task

I don't know the validity of this guncam footage (Video: Macchi.202 shooting a P-40). I've read/heard, though, that when Italian pilots were getting hits on another plane, it was clear that they were causing a lot of damage.

This video clip has been used quite frequently to validate the effectiveness of the BREDA. It's true there are a lot of hits and a lot of smoke, but I really don't see much damage to be honest. The P-40 doesn't really look crippled to me, even after getting hit many times.

[6S.Maraz]

Originally Posted by choctaw111

This video clip has been used quite frequently to validate the effectiveness of the BREDA. It's true there are a lot of hits and a lot of smoke, but I really don't see much damage to be honest. The P-40 doesn't really look crippled to me, even after getting hit many times.

It is NOT a Breda MG definitely.


Maraz

[Snuff_Pidgeon]

The type of H.E used on the breda 12.7 ammo is PETN!(pentaerythritol tetranitrate, also known as pentrite, or rarely and primarily in German as nitropenta) is one of the most powerful high explosives known, with a relative effectiveness factor (R.E. factor) of 1.66. It is more sensitive to shock or friction than TNT or tetryl, and it is never used alone as a booster. It is primarily used in booster and bursting charges of small caliber ammunition, in upper charges of detonators in some land mines and shells, and as the explosive core of detonation cord. (source wikipedia)

[Snuff_Pidgeon]

Originally Posted by 6S.Maraz

It is NOT a Breda MG definitely.


Maraz

The type of explosive used explains the large explosive burst. This though has nothing to do with actual damage sustained as hitting power is lower than other 50 cals.When used against fabric covered aircraft it was extremely effective.Hence the large number of italien bi-plane aces in Spainish civil war!