radiators have no influence on speed

[justme262]

[QUOTE=Hatch;357093]LOL guys, you do realise it says clearly on the graph that it should not be used for anything else than a comparison between the engines due to a non standard radiator ?


That's so funny ! Really made me laugh.
So how can we make a graph of the game? I'll do it.

[KG26_Alpha]

Thread re-opened

I'm closing this thread for a while till you all cool off.

I have deleted the posts that have no concern being on this forum let alone in this thread.

Any more rubbish from you guys and you can take a holiday from here.

[Madfish]

I'm seriously getting tired of this lousy "moderation" behavior.
First of all your message doesn't reflect your actions. Thanks for deleting my proposal for better standartized testing routines including attached pdf though.

While I posted at the peak of this thread and making a little fun of all what happened here, it's just weird that you decide to be above all and having the right to trollolol around with your post?
- Your post contains NO information.
- Everyone can see if a thread is locked or not.
- Time doesn't help cooling things off - in fact it's your fault for letting it derail up to this point.
- What is your post if not rubbish? As far as I am concernced it's totally off-topic.

A good moderator doesn't point fingers or red posts all the time. If you're truly concerned (which I doubt) send PMs and silently delete / edit messages or lock a thread if absolutely necessary. You need not to re-open it either - reasonable people will do that for you and continue their discussion. But why should I tell this to you, it should be common knowledge for any moderator in the first place.
Since I already sent you a PM with some of my observations only to get the response "Grow Up". Hence you're like a red flag to my eyes every time I see your questionable actions.


Right now the moderation in this forum is useless. You let things derail and then lock threads, put effort into deleting tons of posts (even though many or just some contain usable information), put some useless trollolol rant under everything and re-open them. What is the point? Other than deleting evidence and information.
- If you want to do something good then BE a moderator and DON'T let things derail. That makes you a judge and not a moderator...
- If necessary just lock the thread and let people re-use the information. Don't destroy information and / or evidence needlessly.
- Rather spend time preventing threads from derailing than deleting posts at random after things get out of hand. You're like a cop arresting a guy who was beating his wife for two years but this time her bruises were blue and not just green or whatever.
- Oh and please do moderate yourself as well The more I see from you the more I'm getting the feeling you're just not up to the job.


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Again, because deleted

I propose two things that could help solve the issue:

1) Yaeger style test piloting done in game and following a set of procedures.When I was young I got this game called Chuck Yaegers Advanced Flight Trainer. You actually had to find some numbers for the planes on your own like climb or take off speed etc. using some "test pilot procedures".
There was this awesome manual which told you what to do and you'd follow the same procedure with every plane.
You can download it here: ftp://ftp.worldofspectrum.org/pub/si...ghtTrainer.pdf

Something like this could be done with all the planes and for every patch that comes out. It'd not be perfect but at least a small step into the right direction. Also these numbers would be comparable. Since you'd always follow the same procedure.

2) More historical research
Find better charts and data but let a native german read over it before you post it and end up posting complete poop. I'm sure many would assist. Myself included.


Almost forgot. One thing I need to mention. There is no way we should believe into the myth of a UFO breaking all laws of psyics and being a perpetuum mobile. Energy conversion is not something that works on belief alone - while results will vary they ARE there and they ARE measurable.
There's no machine out there where the need to cool the engine actually results in better performance over all - aside from superconductivity scenarios which don't relate to our sphere of physics here. In other words there could be awesomely powerful planes that die from heat and others would just not be able to lift off at all because of too massive cooling solutions. But engine cooling is necessary and it did affect aircraft performance. In terms of both weight and drag.

[Vengeanze]

Madfish and Madblaster. Brothers?

So what's the conclusion here? Does rads cause drag or not or just on some a/c or do we need more and precise data?






Btw, insightful comments on moderation.

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by Madfish

I'm seriously getting tired of this lousy "moderation" behavior.
First of all your message doesn't reflect your actions. Thanks for deleting my proposal for better standartized testing routines including attached pdf though.

While I posted at the peak of this thread and making a little fun of all what happened here, it's just weird that you decide to be above all and having the right to trollolol around with your post?
- Your post contains NO information.
- Everyone can see if a thread is locked or not.
- Time doesn't help cooling things off - in fact it's your fault for letting it derail up to this point.
- What is your post if not rubbish? As far as I am concernced it's totally off-topic.

A good moderator doesn't point fingers or red posts all the time. If you're truly concerned (which I doubt) send PMs and silently delete / edit messages or lock a thread if absolutely necessary. You need not to re-open it either - reasonable people will do that for you and continue their discussion. But why should I tell this to you, it should be common knowledge for any moderator in the first place.
Since I already sent you a PM with some of my observations only to get the response "Grow Up". Hence you're like a red flag to my eyes every time I see your questionable actions.


Right now the moderation in this forum is useless. You let things derail and then lock threads, put effort into deleting tons of posts (even though many or just some contain usable information), put some useless trollolol rant under everything and re-open them. What is the point? Other than deleting evidence and information.
- If you want to do something good then BE a moderator and DON'T let things derail. That makes you a judge and not a moderator...
- If necessary just lock the thread and let people re-use the information. Don't destroy information and / or evidence needlessly.
- Rather spend time preventing threads from derailing than deleting posts at random after things get out of hand. You're like a cop arresting a guy who was beating his wife for two years but this time her bruises were blue and not just green or whatever.
- Oh and please do moderate yourself as well The more I see from you the more I'm getting the feeling you're just not up to the job.


----------------------------------------------------
Again, because deleted

I propose two things that could help solve the issue:

1) Yaeger style test piloting done in game and following a set of procedures.When I was young I got this game called Chuck Yaegers Advanced Flight Trainer. You actually had to find some numbers for the planes on your own like climb or take off speed etc. using some "test pilot procedures".
There was this awesome manual which told you what to do and you'd follow the same procedure with every plane.
You can download it here: ftp://ftp.worldofspectrum.org/pub/si...ghtTrainer.pdf

Something like this could be done with all the planes and for every patch that comes out. It'd not be perfect but at least a small step into the right direction. Also these numbers would be comparable. Since you'd always follow the same procedure.

2) More historical research
Find better charts and data but let a native german read over it before you post it and end up posting complete poop. I'm sure many would assist. Myself included.


Almost forgot. One thing I need to mention. There is no way we should believe into the myth of a UFO breaking all laws of psyics and being a perpetuum mobile. Energy conversion is not something that works on belief alone - while results will vary they ARE there and they ARE measurable.
There's no machine out there where the need to cool the engine actually results in better performance over all - aside from superconductivity scenarios which don't relate to our sphere of physics here. In other words there could be awesomely powerful planes that die from heat and others would just not be able to lift off at all because of too massive cooling solutions. But engine cooling is necessary and it did affect aircraft performance. In terms of both weight and drag.

If you stick to the point of this thread instead of sticking your nose in and making rude swearing remarks then all is good.

I can repost your original remarks and make you look foolish but I think I don't need to do that.

Whilst your here have a read of some rules, and then have a think why I didn't ban you when I should have.

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Now can we please continue with this radiator discussion as intended

[MadBlaster]

Originally Posted by Vengeanze

Madfish and Madblaster. Brothers?

So what's the conclusion here? Does rads cause drag or not or just on some a/c or do we need more and precise data?






Btw, insightful comments on moderation.

Lol. No.

Btw, I am okay with my deletions Alpha. Not mad about that at all. But 12 bucks a copy now? A little.

[BP_Tailspin]

Originally Posted by BP_Tailspin

This place never ceases to entertain me …