109 e4 performance

[Kwiatek]

Originally Posted by Crumpp

About 1.28 ata....

990 mmHg mainfold preassure is 1.34 Ata

and

500 km/h at sea level for 109 E-3 is the best score i have seen in data (German manual). Others are less optimistic.

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by Kwiatek

990 mmHg mainfold preassure is 1.34 Ata

Strange, such a nice guy, experienced pilot, multiple aircraft owner who graduated college with a degree in Aeronautical Science said that was atmospheric pressure at 0m.

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by Robo.

Strange, such a nice guy, experienced pilot, multiple aircraft owner who graduated college with a degree in Aeronautical Science said that was atmospheric pressure at 0m.

Uh, I don't think that's what he said.

Pression d'admission is french for manifold pressure and it's this value that is 990 torr at sea level, not atmospheric pressure (760 torr). The 109 is supercharged, so the pressure in the intake manifold is delivered above atmospheric.

[robtek]

When i read the tenor of some the posts here, i really wonder if there would be the same energy afforded to downgrade the vmax. of the Spit Ia.

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by robtek

When i read the tenor of some the posts here, i really wonder if there would be the same energy afforded to downgrade the vmax. of the Spit Ia.

People get emotionally invested in their favourite plane and/or its traditional adversaries.

[robtek]

Facts vs facts would be much easier, opinion vs fact or vice versa is a neverending story.

[Jumpy]

Originally Posted by Robo.

Strange, such a nice guy, experienced pilot, multiple aircraft owner who graduated college with a degree in Aeronautical Science said that was atmospheric pressure at 0m.

Robo, change your name to Dennis the Menace and stop picking on Crumpp.
Crumpp, give up, mate, obstinance trumps knowledge every time!

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by Jumpy

Robo, change your name to Dennis the Menace and stop picking on Crumpp.
Crumpp, give up, mate, obstinance trumps knowledge every time!

Quite OT dude I happen to agree with Crumpp in almost all of the things he wrote, I dared to comment his attitude and pointed out that everybody is making mistakes. Nothing to do with you, Sir.

TomcatViP - no, we're not trying to build an Emil that was better than the real thing. I see that many opinions and fact inetrpretations here are on the optimistic side, but as whole, we discuss this matter because we find it interesting. We don't even know it that affects anything regarding the FM. Most likely not.

French test - completely agree, but Swiss top speed was prior to the modification and seems to be legit (and interesting).

[Jumpy]

[QUOTE=Robo.;355377]Quite OT dude I happen to agree with Crumpp in almost all of the things he wrote, I dared to comment his attitude and pointed out that everybody is making mistakes. Nothing to do with you, Sir.

HE-He, such a polite poke in my eye Yes we ALL make mistakes, eh?

Please, as they say in the Army, "Don't call me 'Sir,' I work for a living.
But why all this concern about top speed? Surely you don't just turn your favourite LUFTWAFFE plane and run from a fight!!! I suggest some maneouvring might help (I always have trouble spelling 'maneouvre' - if it is wrong I,m sure you will be kind enough to correct me.

[CWMV]

Turn fighting is for suckers.
Either initiate the attack with a firm advantage or disengage. Never fight fair.
Hence the need for speed!