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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 10-22-2011, 11:46 AM
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I think Tree's earlier post quashes the joint 'efforts' of AoA and robtek.
It all links back to my first post (which this duo seem to forget)
I'm not trying to be rude and seek some sort of endeavour of argument, but the point is clear: if it says DX-11 on the box, people will expect the game to be using those features. It is misleading. Aside from whether it is supported for implementation in the future, the team are in no credible postition to paste a list of features onto the box that can be supported. In reality, a shopping list of features are supported, but not implemented. That is misleading to any newcomers. The point is uncounterable.
Now Lobi, as well, has posted tangible evidence to support this argument.
In the face of statements, or quoted posts being taken out of context? It's clear we have taken the effort to support our claims. Have you?
Please gents, it's clear there's a diversion of opinions. The childish point-scoring: 'hey, we beat you, let's talk to another user about how stupid these 'negative people' are' is just ridiculous And I will be honest here, until AoA started posting more frequently, this atmosphere had largely died out of this forum. AoA mentioned All-Aircraft-Arcade/Simulations in a recent post: well I will be honest, as moderator there I received a terrible amount of complaints about his bullying, vindictive, argumentative attitude. Trooper has said the same on these forums too.
It really is pathetic. Grow up and understand that people will have different opinions on issues surrounding the game. For a BoB sim, there are various areas that mean more to certain people than others. It's not too hard to understand. It's just ridiculous being name-called just for saying something constructive about how the terrain is wrong, or another feature. Luthier has already posted by saying this:

"If we didn't listen to criticism, Il-2 would never in a million years get to where it did back in 2001.

So please keep it coming. "

now show me where he has said: 'if we didn't read a minroity of whining posts from members arguing against these horribly negative people, Il-2 would never in a million years get to where it did back in 2001.'

have fun with that search!
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Old 10-22-2011, 11:46 AM
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Yes me to Skoshi, ive been working on getting our own server up and running, trying to create a real nice map. No doubt I will catch up with you soon.
Myself and Skoshi are proof that you can disagree about many things, but ultimately still have respect and fly together quite happily whilst having heaps of fun.

S! Skoshi.
Well said.
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Old 10-22-2011, 12:04 PM
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Yes me to Skoshi, ive been working on getting our own server up and running, trying to create a real nice map. No doubt I will catch up with you soon.
Myself and Skoshi are proof that you can disagree about many things, but ultimately still have respect and fly together quite happily whilst having heaps of fun.

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Old 10-22-2011, 03:11 PM
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There are many posts where Oleg and Luthier tell us the game will support DX11 and there are many post where they also tell us that SLI and crossfire will work, As we know this was all crap. If you could only see past the Dev's butts you may be able to use the search button. Heres one post I found in all of 10 seconds.


http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=171
Oleg_Maddox said, "Currently for DX9, DX10 and DX11 in all of them there are difference in graphics"

You have jumped ahead with your logic, and assumed he was saying that about COD. LOL

Tree you gotta do better than that.

Yet, to put the proverbial AXE in the stump. What counts is what we have now, and hopefully what we can expect.

I say we are strictly on the hopefully side to that nowadays, since Luthier is doing what he can with his inheritance.

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Old 10-22-2011, 03:56 PM
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For those who are reading this and not familiar with Tree_UK know that he has nothing good to say about CoD. Why he is so negative, well that is one for the Freudian types out there. We don't need to know why he is, only that he is. With that said this reply to his post is not to him, it is to those who are not familiar with his agenda. So with that in mind allow me to point out how silly his latest attempt is. That being that 1C, UBI, or STEAM advertised CoD as DirectX 11 game.

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There are many posts where Oleg and Luthier tell us the game will support DX11
Note folks.. Tree says there are 'many' posts where Oleg and/or Luthier 'tell' us the game will support DX11..

Yet, he only provided '1' link to '1' post by Oleg back in October of 2009, Some two years ago, and nearly a year and a half before CoD was released. That is to say during the development of CoD. As as all 'adults' can tell you, things can change between development and delivery.

Also note that Tree did NOT quote what Oleg said in that post two years ago

Ask yourself.. Don't you think Tree would have quoted it here if this was the holly grail of proof that 1C, UBI, or STEAM promised a fully DirectX 11 game? Well there is a reason for that, Tree is hoping you will not click on the link and simply read Tree's summary of what Oleg said as proof. Fact is any adult clicking on that link and reading what Oleg actually said will see that there is no promise that CoD will ultimately be a fully DirectX 11 game. As it does prove to us is that Oleg was looking into the differences between DX9, DX10, and DX11.

So out of the 'many' this was the best Tree could find?

Does that not tell you something?

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and there are many post where they also tell us that SLI and crossfire will work, As we know this was all crap.
Note folks.. Here is another example.. Now ask yourself, if there are 'many' posts stating such.. Than it should be a simple mater for Tree to post a link to '1' if not 'many'.. Right?

Yet he posted none

Does that not tell you something?

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If you could only see past the Dev's butts you may be able to use the search button.
Note folks.. Here Tree is trying to draw me off topic

Why you ask?

Well this is the typical approach of the neg-nuts when they know they don't have a leg to stand on. Their goal is to muddy the waters with a name calling and tangent topics in the hopes of taking the focus off the fact that they have not proof. Again, if your not familiar with Tree you may not have noticed this. But for those of us who have had to put up with his rants for the past few months they are easy to spot

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Heres one post I found in all of 10 seconds.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=171
Now allow me to actually post 'here' what Oleg said at that '1' link Tree provided, i.e.

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I have a bad feeling, that this game will take rest of my free time

I Hope they will support DX11 as it is DX brakethrough like DX 9 was.

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Currently for DX9, DX10 and DX11 in all of them there are difference in graphics
Keep in mind this post is TWO YEARS OLD! A good YEAR AND A HALF before CoD was released. Which means this conversation took place during the development of CoD.

Now ask yourself.. Do you see anything Oleg said in that post that could be construed as a promise that CoD would be a fully DX11 game?

I sure don't!

Now ask yourself.. What sort of person would read that and conclude what Tree concluded? Does that look like something an 'adult' mind would read and conclude, or something a 'child' like mind would read and conclude?

And by 'child' like I mean someone that has no real grasp on reality of PC games.

In that most adults realize..

Most if not all software/games are released with bugs
Things change between development and delivery

So in summary

As I pointed out, we received everything that was advertised (read promised) at the date of release. And below is a list of what was advertised. As you read the following, note, no mention what so ever of DX11

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In order to play this game properly, your PC MUST meet or exceed these minimum system requirements:

Supported OS: Windows 7 / Vista SP2 / Windows XP SP3
Processor: 2.0 GHz Pentium Dual-Core or Athlon X2 3800+ (2.66 GHz Intel Core i5 or 2.6 GHz AMD Phenom II X4 recommended)
RAM: 2GB (4GB recommended)
Video Card: 512 MB DirectX 9.0c compliant video card (1 GB DirectX 10 recommended)(See supported List*)
DirectX: DirectX 9.0c or DirectX 10 (included on disc)
DVD-ROM Drive: 8X DVD-ROM
Sound Card: DirectX 9.0c compatible
Hard Disk Space: 10GB free hard disk space
Peripherals Supported: Mouse, keyboard (joystick with throttle and rudder control recommended)
Internet Connection: Broadband connection with 128 kbps upstream or faster

*Supported Video Cards at time of release:
ATI Radeon 4850 / 5000 / 6000 series or better
NVIDIA Geforce 8800 / 9000 / 250 / 460 series or better
Laptop versions of these cards may work but are NOT supported. These chipsets are the only ones that will run this game.
Joystick compatibility
Saitek PRO Flight Yoke / Saitek PRO Flight Rudder Pedals
Saitek X52
Saitek AV8R
Logitech Extreme 3D Pro
Logitech Attack 3
Microsoft Xbox 360 Controller Wired & Wireless (limited compatibility)
Most CH Products
Most Thrustmaster Products
Example of the above can be found at all of the following OFFICIAL links

http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubina/en_U...ctID.224108000
http://ubisoft-en.custhelp.com/app/a...mum-requiremts
http://ubisoft.custhelp.com/app/answ...liffs-of-dover

So, not sure where this DX11 'myth' comes from? It surly didn't come from any official 1C, UBI, or STEAM web site. Some of which are over 6 months old. Note I don't have the box version, so at this point I can only assume that it is mentioned there? I mean this myth would have to be based on more that what Tree provided above.. Right? Assuming it is mentioned somewhere, go back a page or two and I think you will see that robtek already covered it.
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Old 10-22-2011, 03:58 PM
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And I don't like Tree attitude at all, because i'm a fanboy!

But i'm not either blind, deaf or stupid...
See rob!

Told ya he would be back!
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Keep in mind this post is TWO YEARS OLD! A good YEAR AND A HALF before CoD was released.
And it's good?

It's about time to DX11 rendering, or at least DX10.1...
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Old 10-22-2011, 04:10 PM
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For those who are reading this (...) tons of BS (...)
face it, you got owned. apologize and leave.
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Oleg_Maddox said, "Currently for DX9, DX10 and DX11 in all of them there are difference in graphics"

You have jumped ahead with your logic, and assumed he was saying that about COD. LOL

Tree you gotta do better than that.

Yet, to put the proverbial AXE in the stump. What counts is what we have now, and hopefully what we can expect.

I say we are strictly on the hopefully side to that nowadays, since Luthier is doing what he can with his inheritance.
Im sorry but you are wrong on this, read the whole thread its absoloutley all about CLOD, Oleg goes on to say that each tree will have a collision model. Oh and you insuled Oleg in the same thread saying his landscape looked like Shrek Island.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...251#post114251
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Old 10-22-2011, 04:11 PM
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And it's good?

It's about time to DX11 rendering, or at least DX10.1...
Ah, your missing the whole point

Not suprised really..

Allow me to bring you up to speed

CoD was not advertised (read promised) as a fully DX11 game

Therefore we have recived everything we that was advertised!

Which explains why the neg-nuts have NOT posted a link to thier class action suit to get thier $50 bucks back.. Because they have no case

Got it?
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