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10-10-2011, 11:06 PM
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Ya, Oleg also said that the FM's for the IL2 aircraft were correct-didn't make it true. It took the mod community to create FM's that were even close to achieving the tested performance of the modeled aircraft.
And I'm sure the same is true here. Sorry, but a 109E topping out at 440-450 kph at sea level is about 50kph to slow. See here: performance at 1.3ata demonstrated to be 498kph at sea level and 572 at 4800 meters. And this was done with an E-1 prototype which did not have the later style, more efficient air intake and thus the performance of production E series types would probably be higher. http://kurfurst.org/Performance_test...w_109V15a.html Even better, here: http://kurfurst.org/Performance_test...chreibung.html Quite a bit more than we get currently. So complain all you want but the hard data backs that the 109E is substantially under modeled, as are just about all aircraft in game, with the obvious exception of the Spit IIa.
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Woahhh hang on a minute CWMV.. Since when do hard facts and historical data have any place in this arguement?? That's no fair!  Seems I might have to rethink my postion on the whole 109's are modelled correctly stance... I still think 109's are way better than Hurries and all Blue drivers who run away are little girls. 
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10-11-2011, 01:42 AM
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Max speed @ 0km - 460kph 1km - 480kph 2km - 500kph 3km - 520kph 4km - 540kph 5km - 555kph 6km - 555kph 7km - 550kph Now what were you saying about 50kph to slow?
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10-11-2011, 02:33 AM
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Wow, when I see these numbers and compare it to the ingame perfomance of all the planes, I ask myself why the developers haven´t implemented that kind of data to the planes of the game ?
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10-11-2011, 05:24 AM
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Ive already posted it, but here goes again... http://www.kurfurst.org/Performance_...chreibung.html
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10-11-2011, 05:37 AM
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http://www.airpages.ru/eng/lw/bf109e1.shtml http://www.aviation-history.com/mess...itt/bf109.html Last edited by Valec; 10-11-2011 at 06:07 AM.
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10-11-2011, 05:38 AM
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CWM Yes but see if you can find another source for E models getting 500Kmh at sea level, that is imo an exceptional event. Just about every ref I have seen is in the 460Kmh or so sea level area.
Even here the Swiss tests show 460-470 at sea level: http://kurfurst.org/Performance_test...109E_J347.html And the French tests only get 500Kmh (clapped out E I can here some saying  at around 3000m, though the other numbers compare quiet well with the L.Dv.556/3 for the E-1, -3 stuff quoted in this thread.  This all becomes a circular tail chase depending on the references you choose and or trust. The majority are in the L.Dv.556/3 type performance area. Last edited by IvanK; 10-11-2011 at 06:03 AM.
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