The Battle of Britain Was The First Defeat For The German Luftwaffe.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

you're looking at the effect, not the cause.

Had the Germans not been humiliated like they were after WW1, their morale wouldn't have been so down (let's not forget that in the 20s German industry was back with its pre-war glory), their economy wouldn't have been crippled, so they wouldn't have needed a political and military revenge, so Hitler would have kept on being a $hit painter and get banged in jail again and again instead of doing what he did.

The French really wanted to use all of Germany's resources for the next 80 years (!!!) to live off their WW1 victory, now if that's not an all French provocation I dunno how to call it..

I agree, but one should add, for the sake of the propper spirit of this debate...this post serves to give an understanding, not to give apologies for what happend in WW2 on the german side.

[bongodriver]

Well we all know what happens when we forget history.....

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

I agree, but one should add, for the sake of the propper spirit of this debate...this post serves to give an understanding, not to give apologies for what happend in WW2 on the german side.

I agree. You know, I keep on giving things for granted but I'm often proven wrong, some people still shut their ears and go LALALALALALALALA!!! when you try to talk objectively and with hindsight about WW1 and WW2.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

I agree, but one should add, for the sake of the propper spirit of this debate...this post serves to give an understanding, not to give apologies for what happend in WW2 on the german side.

The propper spirit of this debate was about the German defeat in the battle of britain, but it has been invaded by a load of Germans going LALALALALALA! we never did anything wrong, we werent beaten it was just a fleshwound!

[kendo65]

Apart from the pointless arguing over what happened 70 years ago the most distressing thing about this thread is the tone - some people are approaching a conflict in which millions died with the same attitude they bring to supporting their football team - "we would have won the game too if our star striker hadn't been ruled out with injury".

Some people have a lot of growing up to do.

Sad.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

The propper spirit of this debate was about the German defeat in the battle of britain, but it has been invaded by a load of Germans going LALALALALALA! we never did anything wrong, we werent beaten it was just a fleshwound!

Look, if you don't want people to spoil your breast polishing, you may want to consider not posting in an international forum. Chances are that ppl have different opinions.

Se we were an underdog!.....we still are, has the German phyce no concept of fighting back against a bigger aggressor? the Brits have nothing to feel ashamed of in that respect.

You may want to extend that argument to....well, what about a quarter of the world?
You are aware your are constantly shooting your own food with this argument? Why won't try something like "whatever the reasons, in hindsight it was the right thing to do"?
Lots of people would agree with this, even on the other side of the argument. But insisting on post war findings being the reason for pre war descisions serves nobody with a real interest to understand what was happening back then.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

Look, if you don't want people to spoil your breast polishing, you may want to consider not posting in an international forum. Chances are that ppl have different opinions.

You can make all the belittleing posts you like, what the hell is breast polishing anyway? just look at your own post and tell me you dont have an issue because 'I' have a differrent oppinion to you....but you won't find me trying to make little petty comment on your character.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

You can make all the belittleing posts you like, what the hell is breast polishing anyway? just look at your own post and tell me you dont have an issue because 'I' have a differrent oppinion to you....but you won't find me trying to make little petty comment on your character.

Breast polishing? Should be pretty self explainatory. Making your armor shine that much that it blinds you.

I have zero intention of belittleing you, i just have a problem with mixing national pathos with fact finding.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

I have zero intention of belittleing you, i just have a problem with mixing national pathos with fact finding.

Spot on.