Post links to 'cheating using the soundmod' tracks here:

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

What,you don't understand that message?
Seems pretty plain to me.The only one keeping this thread at the top is you.And actually,some of the anti-modders here are in fact pro-modders,as if you did'nt already know that.Personally,I think you are a pro-modder,just here to cause trouble.

you've gone into lala cookoo land now. i only have one login here

ehumm and you yourself already said you have several names you use for login here , which isnt allowed under the forum rules, but that doesnt seem to bother you.

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

I myself have more than one name on this forum.

which is not surprising from somebody who pays the hackers, who'd expect you to stick to any other rules eh

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

Personally,I think you are a pro-modder,just here to cause trouble.

big accusations for somebody sitting miles away behind a computer screen in their bedroom.

prove it sunshine, or get back under your rock.

i only have one login here, and from the beginning i have had only one standpoint in this forum, which is that all this recent hack nonsense is ruining a great flightsim for those that are interested in fair play in a full real competitive online environment with other people from around the world.

i think it is also extremely rude of the hack kiddies to come here to olegs forum and advertise its use, how do you think oleg feels about his hard work being vandalized and destroyed in a few months. do you think this is what gives him the motivation to keep improving the sim and make it better ? do you think he can like magic assign a programmer to try and close the loopholes again and not loose any manpower for his work on BoB ? what are you prepared not to have included in BoB for the privilege of having the hack loophole closed again ? a few planes, maybe no dynamic campaign, whats your price uther ? or you think it all comes for free like mothers milk while you are in the crib ? or maybe the few grey cells you have think that the hack loophole shouldnt be closed, and for the next 9 months till we get BoB the full real competitive users should just go and do something else because that is more convenient for you. dont bother answering, i already know that whatever you'll answer will be selfish again, and wont provide any real solutions.

and this specific thread was started because a small group of the hack kiddies kept pretending it was impossible to use any of the hacks online, and that cheating was impossible.

the contrary has been amply proven by myself and a few others with numerous examples, and other than grounhog-boy who seems to have the attention span of a goldfish, the rest of the hack-kiddies have now migrated their argument to being "well we dont give a flying fu** about those that want to use il2 online in a full real setting", as long as they can create their franken planes and a few maps for their own selfish purpose.

[Archie]

I have read a few of the threads here now,and you zapitista are by far the most abusive member on this forum. i completely dis agree wit the hack,but you do your argument no favors with your abusiv posts.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Archie

I have read a few of the threads here now,and you zapitista are by far the most abusive member on this forum. i completely dis agree wit the hack,but you do your argument no favors with your abusiv posts.

i am quite able to discuss things in a normal civilized manner when that is the level of communication that is happening.

but that is not the case here, it is a small group of hack kiddies who are deliberately advertising the hacks in olegs own forum, and after initially pretending it wasnt possible to use them online, they now quite openly say they dont mind ruining the sim for the rest of us.

so lets not pretend it is rain falling on your boots

[Archie]

What is 'rain faling on my boots mean?

[JG52Uther]

So zapatista,if you are so anti mod,you will be taking part in the anti cheat trials going on at ubi just now? Strange,I don't see your name there.What name are you using at ubi? And you seem to spend a lot of time at the mod forum,and know a lot about how to cheat in il2 so what name do you go under there? Something to hide?
Yes I have 1 other log in name,with one post to its credit.If Evgeny doesn't like it,I will provide him with the name and he can delete it.
And actually,I did say that I was leaving this useless trouble stirring thread,so again:
Bye bye.
zapatista The thread was nearly off the front page so just keep bumping it occasionally with some more bile and insults.Thanks.

[Baron]

Originally Posted by Archie

What is 'rain faling on my boots mean?

Archie, maby he is slightly less than civil ( i know i was), but thats propably becaus he, like i, are completly fed up with people incapeble of simple 3:rd grade reasoning. Fed up with debating with people who can only see right from wrong if they themselfes gain something from it.

Personally i just stoped arguing with some of those people.


And some people (id bet there are only 2-3 modfriends in here with a gazillion personas shared between them) who by theire own admittens uses several login names is in no way shape or form in the position to judge anybody just because he dissegrees with him.

Maby thats what some of us are fed up with, people who dont know when to shut up..and think before they post instead of just rembling on and on.

[Razer]

Originally Posted by zapatista

i am quite able to discuss things in a normal civilized manner when that is the level of communication that is happening.

So why dont YOU take the more mature route, and display that you're above it - rather than getting right on in there and slinging feeces like some retarded ape?

Come on - is it not hard to see people, that continuing to debate this bloody mod cr@p is no more than promotion in and of itself???

It would seem that the 'hack-kiddies' arent the only 'spotted faced teenagers' sitting behind their computer screens in their bedrooms acting immature...

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Razer

So why dont YOU take the more mature route, and display that you're above it -

sure, great idea, and lets just see how long civilized communication will last

Originally Posted by Razer

rather than getting right on in there and slinging feeces like some retarded ape?

ahh you didnt even last a single paragraph before you started adding insults yourself, what a surprise.

so what do you think will happen now ? if some act like juveniles and get rude and offensive they shouldnt complain when they get a spraying back.

Originally Posted by Razer

Come on - is it not hard to see people, that continuing to debate this bloody mod cr@p is no more than promotion in and of itself???

yep, and the hack kiddie bunch should all be banned from here, and any discussion of the hacks locked out. trying to compromise by having some discussion on it allowed is counter productive because of the blatantly selfish vandalism that motivates the hack supporters.

[Razer]

Originally Posted by zapatista

yep, and the hack kiddie bunch should all be banned from here, and any discussion of the hacks locked out. trying to compromise by having some discussion on it allowed is counter productive because of the blatantly selfish vandalism that motivates the hack supporters.

Yet you keep it going...

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Razer

Yet you keep it going..:

the most sensible statement on that was made by ivan, who somewhere at the start of the 2 threads on mods suggested that the only positive spin on the hack issue could be made by giving some examples of how the sim can actually be improved with some of the edits.

some good examples of this would be the new flames from aircraft exhausts,new landing gear noise, new reflections and "shine" on skins, new fire and smoke effects, the new maps like okinawa etc.. some of these could be minor changes that can improve the game if they were added to minor patches. in theory there is a lot of talent available of people that have the interest and time to make positive contributions and then one of olegs programmers could spend a single hr of his time to briefly check those modifications for bugs, and then include them in a future patch.

the problem however is that it is not a choice of having our current il2 "and" simply adding some improvements, but it is "either" having the original il2 OR loosing all online full real competitive use of this sim after 5 years. locking il2 again for fair online use is not a simple act, it is complex and takes significant man hour time and effort, and it might not even be possible anymore so we will be stuck with total online anarchy for the next 12 months while we wait for BoB. and it is not for jasonvision or stalkerbirder (pun intended) to decide for the rest of the online il2 community how they can use their sim online.