Who has the best IL-2 Online Server?

[Thunderbolt56]

All of the DF servers, their admins and mapmakers are constantly trying to achieve a higher level of historical accuracy while maintaining playability and balance. The pilot numbers in a DF room are dynamic and too unpredictable to try to keep true historical accuracy.

For true historical accuracy, your best bet is coops.

[FA_Retro-Burn]

Self nomination --- Winds of War of course

We also host some of the Forgotten Skies campaigns.

[Xiola]

Ukdedicated2, historic scenarios, fantastic planesets, great admins and regulars, Missions have been carefully and lovingly tweaked by great map makers.

Not high difficulty, not arcade, just great settings for fun flying with friends. And NO ATTITUDE (You get the odd idiot who thinks he's the bees knees, but he doesn't last long )

if you want to show off your 'skillz' or be a 'solo ace' then pick one of the other 'ego servers'. If you want friendly flying with other pilots with a team attitude and no egos, then try Ukded2. I love it.



Other good ones = Spits vs 109's , Warclouds new server which has missions from all years not just the same old boring 1944 one. (I forgot its name)

[crazyivan1970]

You dont need to defend yourself crash, hard core IL2 junkies know that Spit vs 109s offers NOTHING, but quality simming. It`s the only server i played on for the past year (that and Zeke v Wildcat), along with other SEOW junkies... and believe me, i am picky fellow

RaVen just got too much money from Guse, he didnt mean any of that...all guses fault, no doubt

[kid_SA]

I've had a lot of fun on Spit-109 and Zeke-WC, but I have experienced lag with many players on the server at once, sometimes quite radical lag. Then again, I don't fly on many servers with quite so many people on, so for all I know it's a limitation of the game engine.

The other issue are the people. Kill stealing is common, often at the risk of collisions. I'm not one who thinks this is the ultimate damnable offence worthy of the 5th circle of hell, but it does break the mood to have a zero snake across your flight pass when you've done a lag displacement roll to get behind a wildcat, and proceeds to get the kill. Or if my target is smoking. Fair enough that he is not down, and still a threat, but courtesy should dictate that I can handle him, since he's smoking.

This is not directed only at the WBoP servers, but all large servers. The small group dynamics seem to be missing somewhat, which is a shame. I've had some really great fun there randomly flying with people I'd never met before, but overall the experience of others is one that annoys me. People are selfish, in the end.

I'm keen to try out Guts_Glory, but I've yet to find anyone on. Unless the IP changes periodically or something, I've once seen one guy on, and not since. Further, I do get a kick out of the full real environment without any compromises. A speed bar is still 3 glowing lines of red text in the corner of my eye, and navigation was a very important part of flying.

So back to the question: what servers are full (no compromises) real, feature great maps, and have a small, hardcore group of flyers that work as a team? Warbirds of Prey has disadvantages, but frankly I've yet to find a rival.

ADW is heaps of fun for more structured play though. The tension when your actions matter is indescribable, and the action is perpetual.

What's AW like? I see it on HL (though I'm an ASE user mostly) but how is it set up? I take it it's a set of coops? Are the settings Full Real or is it up to the host to choose?

[F19_Klunk]

Warbirds of Prey servers are indeed a well managed set of servers. They offer high quality objective based missions on high performance hardware. For a guy who lives in Scandinavia, I have rarely problems with lagging or high ping, and when I do it is exclusively because of my own shortcomings hardware-wise.

If you have issues with any mission, please let them know in their forum - they have always been open for suggestions regarding improvements... both the "Old" and the "New" management.

I have no complaints at all - other than rare occasional bad bahaviour amongst ceratain pilots, and that is not their responibility - but they do "police" the activity on the servers.. VERY closely and eagerly .. bad behaviour is found on any server..

I highly recommend Warbirds of prey servers - pretty much the only ones I find to meet my demands on quality "air time"

[JG52Uther]

AFW:
http://war.by-airforce.com/

[crazyivan1970]

People should also keep in mind that lag is often induced by users themselves and their weak hardware. You can put a NASA computer to host IL2, that aint going to help someone with 1GB of RAM on 3 years old system... he will warp right in the front of you whether you like it or not if there is A LOT going on around him... and no server hardware or high speed connection will prevent that...

[RaVe]

Originally Posted by crazyivan1970

You dont need to defend yourself crash, hard core IL2 junkies know that Spit vs 109s offers NOTHING, but quality simming. It`s the only server i played on for the past year (that and Zeke v Wildcat), along with other SEOW junkies... and believe me, i am picky fellow

RaVen just got too much money from Guse, he didnt mean any of that...all guses fault, no doubt

Not picky enough Ivan...

For the record please don't bring Guse into it.
He has nothing to do with my personal opinions. Its not fair. Joking around or not, some may not think your joking.

CCrash
Pm is the place for this.

But I'm forced to respond to your post here.

Allow me to correct a few of YOUR statements.



First off let me begin with a personal apology in regard to the no thank you for donations. You are correct
I have not give any $ in over 10 months.

I'm sorry that that comment landed on you.
I am glad to see that you do have the Class to thank people for donating. Unlike your predecessor.
Again my apologies.

That said there are several things that you said in your defense that are completely INFURIATING.

You come off as honorable in your presentation, but it is not fooling me.

lets be honest here. You don't need to change the facts or stretch time frames to make your points.

Originally Posted by Ccrashh

According to server records you have not been on the Warbirds servers since November. So you haven't even been on the new machine to critique it.
We don't have a single entry of you flying, firing a bullet, or dropping a bomb, nor do we have any listing that shows you shooting down anyone or being shot down yourself since the new server came online.

I haven't been on your server since NOV?

The Hell I haven't! Both as -=FA=-Raven and other handles to remain anonymous.

Why don't you mention the month of December? I was heavily testing the server then?


You use Stat reset to insulate your time frame.

I HAVE been in the server since your new system was put in place. I was in there as recently as a week ago.
I have many on line friends that can vouch for that. I also joined with mods on.

You think I would just make criticisms like that with out basis??

Yes you do own the server. You can also control and manipulate the chat log and stats to conveniently hedge your position.

Short of coming out and saying, it its obvious what you have done to make your point...NICE

It was kind of dumb though, as I have flown with so many on line there that can vouch for me.....

I'm not new to the Sim. I have many that can validate the fact I have flow in the server very recently.

So to try to paint me as some wing nut shooting from the hip seems a bit desperate.

Did you see last weeks chat log? or has it mysteriously vanished ????
I was chatting up a storm in there. I'm sure you saw the chat....

I think It is absolutely disgraceful that you have taken this tack to discredit me in an attempt to save face.

Just because I criticized your server.

I am well with in my rights to do so, and will continue until I see improvements.

Originally Posted by Ccrashh

Warbirds of Prey does not support any mods. In point of fact we run CRT=2 and the admins record and review tracks continuously looking for infractions. We support the standard issue game that comes right out of the box. Nothing else.

It wasn't until very recently that I see you now have finally started to use check run time 2. That explains the resent drop off in attendance.
I'm glad that you did,fix it.
It has made some of your admins very happy as well.


Lets keep things honest here.

I understand that my personal opinion has hit you in the wallet.Your running a business for profit here.
But You can't expect to take donations and not be criticized for sub par performance.
You have cost, I understand that. But to charge a
"subscription fee"
to give "subscribers" the right to down load stuff that they can get for free on other sites is over the top.

I stand by my comments 100%.
I have seen no noticeable improvement in the server since you have taken over.
if I felt it were a good server I would fly in it. I would donate to it.
As I had since its inception.
I was a huge supporter.
Both on line and Financially.Well over the hundred $ per year range.
Any that know when I like a server I will go out of my way to support it.

The fact that your server does not have my support is telling.
Take my criticisms as constructive and improve it. What you have there is still not working.
I find the server problematic.

After donating lots of $$ over the years to your predecessor and experiencing poor on line game play,I am well within my rights to complain.
Even after you have taken over, I still see the same issues, in spite of what you say.



I am entitled to my opinion and I feel that there are much better servers out there.

Originally Posted by Ccrashh

Unlike your post.. I know what I'm talking about.
I own the server.
I wish you the best of luck with your server.
You can rest assured that no admin from Warbirds of Prey will be found bashing your server in anyone else's forums.

You own the server... Great keep working on it. I hope you can deliver.
So far I don't see any great improvements. When I do I will be happy to recommend the server and happily donate to is success.
As I had from its inception.

Yes I have a server ,That is beside the point.
Its for public use.
I donate it as a gift to the community As i do with skins mission ect for free on my dime and time.
I do this so other squads can use it,admin it , as a practice arena. Or to fly bi planes.
I have no intention to make it anything more.
I'm in no competition with you.I have nothing to gain by criticizing your server.I'm not in it for the money.

If I feel that WOW is a much better, smoother server.

Its my right to say so.

Thats what this thread is about and thats why I posted here, in this thread.

I have posted in the feedback in the past at your site and granted it was with you predecessor. I got no response.
but thats not your fault so I cant hold that against you.

But what I can hold against you is the fact that you have tried to slander my integrity with your innuendos.

As eloquently, honorable, moral ,as you present your self.....

The fact that you stretched the facts to hedge your argument speaks volumes..


cCrash I'm sure you mean well and want the best. But as of now I don't see a change.
Perhaps its simply the maps not well tested. There is defiantly packet loss happening in there on a regular basis. I know many that get hit and hear nothing.

I am pushing for quality. Over the past few years I have been very disappointed with the server. I'm not alone. I'm just the idiot taking the bullets for saying so.
Take the criticism and improve.




You forced me to respond publicly by insinuating I'm a lier or full of shi*.
There is much more I could point out and prove.
At this point, I recommend keeping it in PM . This is no longer the place for our discussion to continue.
please address any concerns to PM as I'm finished here.

I simply was expressing an opinion to help push for quality. I did not mean to create a drama Seine.

Originally Posted by crazyivan1970

People should also keep in mind that lag is often induced by users themselves and their weak hardware. You can put a NASA computer to host IL2, that aint going to help someone with 1GB of RAM on 3 years old system... he will warp right in the front of you whether you like it or not if there is A LOT going on around him... and no server hardware or high speed connection will prevent that...

Good point.. But It happens much to often in Sv109 than in other servers. Servers that have lots of people with lots going on...What you speak about is a very very rare event in WOW and a very common event in Sv109. Thats my point.
how can WOW get around the problem and S v 109 cant?

[Adlerangriff]

"So I think that I am anything but bias."



"He who excuses himself, accuses himself."