Friday Development Update - September 16, 2011

[von Pilsner]

Originally Posted by Baron

if you are expecting a 50% increase all of a sudden without sacrificing settings your pc cant handle or buy a new pc for that matter, well, then you are dreaming.

I'm not sure where you get that from what anyone is saying in this thread...

I believe the issue is that the game runs worse (for many of us) with the same graphics settings used before the patch.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by Baron

Qick fix, dial down the eye candy (effects is a good start) and turn of dynamic lighting (for example). Just because YOU cant run it on the settings YOU want doesn't mean the performance isn't any good. Iv had good performance myself from day one, without turning much of mind u, and im starting to feel the need to ask u and other in your situation what u are doing wrong. I never deleted any catches, defraged folders and hoopty dooda etc.

Fm not fine? I wouldn't know, iv never flown a WWII bird but please fill me in on the obvious flaws.

Dm not fine? I wouldn't know, iv never shot at a WWII bird but please fill me in on the flaws.


Look, i really don't know what you and others are expecting performance wise from a game this "heavy"? Cant fly through smoke? Turn graphics down or buy a new pc, seriously, is that something new that came just because CloD was released and they are somehow responsible for it? Ever tried original Crysis or Metro maby? Have you posted the same demands on their forums? Sure, they can gain a frame or two here and there but if you are expecting a 50% increase all of a sudden without sacrificing settings your pc cant handle or buy a new pc for that matter, well, then you are dreaming.

You might as well blame your car for getting you a speeding ticket.


CloD works better than ever for a lot of people and constantly spamming the forums of issues you are having like its a general problems wont fix it.

+1

I even remember Oleg way back when saying that when the sim gets released even the most powerful PC would only be able to play it on medium settings. We're still on the same generation of CPU's and graphics cards that were around at COD's release.

I'ld say Luthier and team have done wonders to get the performance to the state of the last patch and that's on mid range hardware at that.

Cheers!

[Baron]

Originally Posted by von Pilsner

I'm not sure where you get that from what anyone is saying in this thread...

I believe the issue is that the game runs worse (for many of us) with the same graphics settings used before the patch.

Many people want new shiny stuff, but they don't want to "pay" for it, is that what u are saying?

Are we going to have this debate again once the dynamic weather is implemented?

[albx]

Originally Posted by Baron

Qick fix, dial down the eye candy (effects is a good start) and turn of dynamic lighting (for example). Just because YOU cant run it on the settings YOU want doesn't mean the performance isn't any good. Iv had good performance myself from day one, without turning much of mind u, and im starting to feel the need to ask u and other in your situation what u are doing wrong. I never deleted any catches, defraged folders and hoopty dooda etc.

Fm not fine? I wouldn't know, iv never flown a WWII bird but please fill me in on the obvious flaws.

Dm not fine? I wouldn't know, iv never shot at a WWII bird but please fill me in on the flaws.


Look, i really don't know what you and others are expecting performance wise from a game this "heavy"? Cant fly through smoke? Turn graphics down or buy a new pc, seriously, is that something new that came just because CloD was released and they are somehow responsible for it? Ever tried original Crysis or Metro maby? Have you posted the same demands on their forums? Sure, they can gain a frame or two here and there (witch btw is more than u can say for Crysis or Metro) but if you are expecting a 50% increase all of a sudden without sacrificing settings your pc cant handle or buy a new pc for that matter, well, then you are dreaming.

You might as well blame your car for getting you a speeding ticket.


Im having lag and freezes on 10 year old games, what makes CloD so special its now unacceptable and more importantly, what is Luthier and team suppose to do about it? CloD works better than ever for a lot of people and constantly spamming the forums of issues you (dont mean just you or just performance) are having like its a general problems wont fix it.

First of all, why should I turn down my settings if till the official patch (1.02) it run not very bad? Second, with or without the effects the slideshow is still there. Third, the problems are random, now you can have good performances with alot of planes, no stutters and no freezes, a minute later alot of stutters and freezes also if you are alone in the sky, for me this mean the game is still not optimized. Buy another PC? my specs are not so bad, and why the culprit should be the user and not the game? So, you are telling the game runs bad on our system because we are not able to make it run good? great idea...

[Baron]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

+1

I even remember Oleg way back when saying that when the sim gets released even the most powerful PC would only be able to play it on medium settings. We're still on the same generation of CPU's and graphics cards that were around at COD's release.

I'ld say Luthier and team have done wonders to get the performance to the state of the last patch and that's on mid range hardware at that.

Cheers!

My thought from the start, never thought it would look that good and play on my old system (todays version of CloD is far better than the release version to). Granted it was a Q9550 and Gtx 470 but it was by no means the most powerful pc available (like Oleg said would be required) when CloD was released and yet i see people with far "worse" systems wondering why the performance is so bad while they at the same time are amazed how good the game looks with dynamic lighting.

[Baron]

Originally Posted by albx

First of all, why should I turn down my settings if till the official patch (1.02) it run not very bad? Second, with or without the effects the slideshow is still there. Third, the problems are random, now you can have good performances with alot of planes, no stutters and no freezes, a minute later alot of stutters and freezes also if you are alone in the sky, for me this mean the game is still not optimized. Buy another PC? my specs are not so bad, and why the culprit should be the user and not the game? So, you are telling the game runs bad on our system because we are not able to make it run good? great idea...

What am i suppose to say? A game runs fine for 50% and bad for 50% (random numbers), what conclusion can one make from that? As far as im consened there is only one to be made. Its not like they are selling 2 different versions of the game.

Sry.


Why am i having freezes and lag on 10 year old games and the next guy dont? Games fault? You can stubbornly hold on to "not going to dial down settings because it worked fine on the least version", but does it help you in any way, does it solve the problem?


Anyways, i don't think this discussion is meant for this thread.



Edit: Dont know if u are talking on or offline or both but there is a huge difference.

[SEE]

Sounds very promising - bugs ironed out before official patch is released - takes time and no problem with that!

I would guess Luthier avoids reading the 'up date threads' he posts because of the 'questioniong' this and future updates. Hopefully he, or someone in his team, reads the forum threads regards the issues mentioned and takes note. They are relevant and need to be fixed somewhere down the line.

[pupo162]

Originally Posted by Baron

What am i suppose to say? A game runs fine for 50% and bad for 50%, what conclusion can one make from that? As far as im consened there is only one to be made.

Sry.


Why am i having freezes and lag on 10 year old games and the next guy dont? Games fault?


Anyways, i don't think this discussion is meant for this thread.



Edit: Dont know if u are talking on or offline or both but there is a huge difference.

PC Configuration

* OPERATING SYSTEM: Windows® 7 / Vista SP2 / Windows XP SP3
* PROCESSOR: Pentium® Dual-Core 2.0GHz or Athlon™ X2 3800+ (Intel Core i5 2.66GHz or AMD Phenom II X4 2.6GHz recommended)
* RAM: 2GB (4GB recommended)
* VIDEO CARDirectX® 9.0c compliant, 512Mb Video Card (1GB DirectX® 10 recommended) – See supported List*
* DIRECT X®: DirectX® 9.0c (included on disc)
* DVD-ROM DRIVE: 8X
* SOUND CARD: DirectX 9.0c compatible (… recommended)
* HARD DISK: 10GB
* PERIPHERALS: Mouse, keyboard
* MULTIPLAY: Broadband connection with 128 kbps upstream or faster
* An internet connexion is required to activate the game

im in between minimun and recomended. and the gmae will lag and freeze with low settings.

I have no issues with the game requiring a minimun fo an i9 32gb ram and 5 gtx960 on uber SLI, but that should be said on the box. i baught this game becosue i had the settings to run it.

[Baron]

Originally Posted by pupo162

PC Configuration

* OPERATING SYSTEM: Windows® 7 / Vista SP2 / Windows XP SP3
* PROCESSOR: Pentium® Dual-Core 2.0GHz or Athlon™ X2 3800+ (Intel Core i5 2.66GHz or AMD Phenom II X4 2.6GHz recommended)
* RAM: 2GB (4GB recommended)
* VIDEO CARDirectX® 9.0c compliant, 512Mb Video Card (1GB DirectX® 10 recommended) – See supported List*
* DIRECT X®: DirectX® 9.0c (included on disc)
* DVD-ROM DRIVE: 8X
* SOUND CARD: DirectX 9.0c compatible (… recommended)
* HARD DISK: 10GB
* PERIPHERALS: Mouse, keyboard
* MULTIPLAY: Broadband connection with 128 kbps upstream or faster
* An internet connexion is required to activate the game

im in between minimun and recomended. and the gmae will lag and freeze with low settings.

I have no issues with the game requiring a minimun fo an i9 32gb ram and 5 gtx960 on uber SLI, but that should be said on the box. i baught this game becosue i had the settings to run it.

I completely agree with u here and i cant for the life of me understand why those recommendations still stands.

Everyone knows its not even close. At least not minimum requirements.

I would say that their recommended specs is , at best, minimum requirement.






I blame UBI.

[albx]

Originally Posted by Baron

What am i suppose to say? A game runs fine for 50% and bad for 50% (random numbers), what conclusion can one make from that? As far as im consened there is only one to be made. Its not like they are selling 2 different versions of the game.

Sry.


Why am i having freezes and lag on 10 year old games and the next guy dont? Games fault? You can stubbornly hold on to "not going to dial down settings because it worked fine on the least version", but does it help you in any way, does it solve the problem?


Anyways, i don't think this discussion is meant for this thread.



Edit: Dont know if u are talking on or offline or both but there is a huge difference.

Dialing down the settings don't solve the problems.
Where you got those statistics? anyway, I tested it online and offline, and IMO who say it runs fine haven't properly tested the beta patch, that's all...
You can go on the sukhoi.ru forum, use google translator if you need it, and you'll see how many of the users reports bad performance with this beta. Look again at your statistics Baron...