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Valec · #1 09-14-2011, 04:34 PM

Max speed Spitfire MkI vs Bf E4 0m 394 vs 460 for Bf +66Km/h, 3000m 403 vs 440 for Bf +37Km/h, 5000m 403 vs 422 for Bf +19Km/h. Max speed Spitfire MkIIa vs Bf E4 0m 482 vs 460 for Spit +22Km/h, 3000m 466 vs 440 for Spit +26Km/h, 5000m 418 vs 422 for Bf +4Km/h Which table is fairer?

Ze-Jamz · #2 09-14-2011, 04:38 PM

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Max speed Spitfire MkI vs Bf E4 0m 394 vs 460, 3000m 403 vs 440, 5000m 403 vs 422For Bf E4 +66 Km/h +37Km/h +19Km/h Max speed Spitfire MkIIa vs Bf E4 0m 482 vs 460, 3000m 466 vs 440, 5000m 418 vs 422 For Spit MkII +22 Km/h +26 Km/h for Bf +4Km/h Which table is fairer?

Lol..

Well thanks for that, it just confirms why everyone is going on about it.. 20/30kph faster? and people think thats fair.

Please dont go on about top speed and height..firstly hardly anyone flys high so that small advantage the 109 has you may as well dismiss it and as for the top speed situation, which you would use for what BnZ tactics? take the Hurri then

If your really worried about climb and top speed take the Hurri which is at your disposal on every map.. if you want to fly low to med and dogfight take the Spit, it was designed for that

That table above just says it all really

VO101_Tom · #3 09-14-2011, 05:02 PM

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Lol..

Well thanks for that, it just confirms why everyone is going on about it.. 20/30kph faster? and people think thats fair.
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The 109-SpitIIa difference is much greater. The 109's notleistung only used for 60 seconds, followed by 20 minutes will not turn on (otherwise the engine will damaged).. Without it, the max speed only 430 km/h. The Spit IIa boost has no time limit (no engine failure or overheat) 499 km/h (310 mph). Its 69km/h difference. Huge.

Ze-Jamz · #4 09-14-2011, 05:07 PM

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The 109-SpitIIa difference is much greater. The 109's notleistung only used for 60 seconds, followed by 20 minutes will not turn on (otherwise the engine will damaged).. Without it, the max speed only 430 km/h. The Spit IIa boost has no time limit (no engine failure or overheat) 499 km/h (310 mph). Its 69km/h difference. Huge.

You can operate WEP mate more than once every 20 mins which i think is what your saying but it does need looking after..you are correct on the Boost cut out though...no time limit or engine Dmg, or at least ive not experienced it

VO101_Tom · #5 09-14-2011, 06:05 PM

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You can operate WEP mate more than once every 20 mins which i think is what your saying but it does need looking after..you are correct on the Boost cut out though...no time limit or engine Dmg, or at least ive not experienced it

I was looking in the manual, but i dont find the 20 minutes. I can not remember where I read then. Ok, might be not 20 minutes, but I certainly know that you using many times in a row, the engine is damaged.
It is also interesting that the 20% increase of engine power, why increase the towing force only with 6%...

It is very low the propeller efficiency, which was counted...

Ze-Jamz · #6 09-14-2011, 06:19 PM

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I was looking in the manual, but i dont find the 20 minutes. I can not remember where I read then. Ok, might be not 20 minutes, but I certainly know that you using many times in a row, the engine is damaged.
It is also interesting that the 20% increase of engine power, why increase the towing force only with 6%...

It is very low the propeller efficiency, which was counted...

Yup using WEP constantly will ruin your engine in the 109.. Its very hard to Dmg yer engine in the Spit unless your Rad is not open enough

SEE · #7 09-14-2011, 06:38 PM

If you enable boost in a MK1 you get 0.002Ibs extra (nothing!) but leave it on for too long and manifold pressure fails......it's all backwards!

Valec · #8 09-14-2011, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by VO101_Tom

I was looking in the manual, but i dont find the 20 minutes. I can not remember where I read then. Ok, might be not 20 minutes, but I certainly know that you using many times in a row, the engine is damaged.
It is also interesting that the 20% increase of engine power, why increase the towing force only with 6%...

It is very low the propeller efficiency, which was counted...

You do not know Tom. I have never destroyed even when I hooked up often in a row. You cry and do not even know their aircraft.

VO101_Tom · #9 09-14-2011, 09:20 PM

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You do not know Tom. I have never destroyed even when I hooked up often in a row.

How much was the manifold pressure and the engine rpm?

Valec · #10 09-14-2011, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by VO101_Tom

The 109-SpitIIa difference is much greater. The 109's notleistung only used for 60 seconds, followed by 20 minutes will not turn on (otherwise the engine will damaged).. Without it, the max speed only 430 km/h. The Spit IIa boost has no time limit (no engine failure or overheat) 499 km/h (310 mph). Its 69km/h difference. Huge.

For me the boost is turned off again after about 5 seconds to turn on.