The quickest way to feel ashamed.......

Ze-Jamz · #1 08-25-2011, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BadAim

If there was any risk of them getting shot, they probably wouldn't have taken the plaques in the first place. Damn shame. Where you take away the penalty for being uncivil, there will soon be no civilization. Just human nature.

Completely agree m8

BadAim · #2 08-25-2011, 03:30 PM

Gets harder to be idealistic as you get older dunnit? I think life just kinda beats it out of you.

Jatta Raso · #3 08-26-2011, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BadAim

Gets harder to be idealistic as you get older dunnit? I think life just kinda beats it out of you.

completely agree on that, shame and honor don't measure fairly and equally among different ppl who go through different paths in life... there's a huge disparity in opportunities and life quality that ppl get these days, and a lot of anger and disgust towards social concepts as a consequence. as much as i don't like these kind of actions, if we start shooting ppl for this we'll have a bloodbath on our hands

there are certain groups of individuals that i would press against a wall and take the shot myself, but not for this alone, i wouldn't be so extreme

Richie · #4 08-25-2011, 03:37 PM

I think some people have no clue what so ever what happened in WWII, what it was about what countries were involved the catastrophic loss of life. If a young person takes something off of a grave I would say it's the parents fault the educational systems fault. I've had tons of experience with foster kids at my brothers house and you wouldn't believe some of the things these stupid people do to their kids.

retrojet · #5 08-25-2011, 04:41 PM

Do not want to get into politics here ( it's da rules) , coz whoever is in 'power', does the same as the ones before, absolutely f-all... Excuse my French...

And even after wasting all the best youth a country has to offer by going to war, whether it's a 'just' one, or not... it's the common man who is left to carry the cost, clean up the mess, take in the dregs and pay for the fat cats to carry on getting fatter...

Idiot parents having idiot kids = riots in England... And everything that goes with it!

Parent and teachers unable to raise a hand to unruly kids... Then send them straight to the front lines, instead... Let the enemy waste a few rounds...

Anyway, have a nice day, guys, and thank you for listening... I feel much better, now!

CWMV · #6 08-25-2011, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by retrojet

Do not want to get into politics here ( it's da rules) , coz whoever is in 'power', does the same as the ones before, absolutely f-all... Excuse my French...

And even after wasting all the best youth a country has to offer by going to war, whether it's a 'just' one, or not... it's the common man who is left to carry the cost, clean up the mess, take in the dregs and pay for the fat cats to carry on getting fatter...

Idiot parents having idiot kids = riots in England... And everything that goes with it!

Parent and teachers unable to raise a hand to unruly kids... Then send them straight to the front lines, instead... Let the enemy waste a few rounds...

Anyway, have a nice day, guys, and thank you for listening... I feel much better, now!

Jesus tap-dancing Christ...

Anyway, on topic...this is a truly despicable act. Heres to a quick death to the perpetrators.

Madfish · #7 08-26-2011, 01:45 AM

Probably not making friends with saying this but:

Most of you ask for them to be shot for stealing a plate of cheap copper? Seriously, I wonder if you ever look at what you're saying.

True wartime heroes would probably laugh at this or turn around in their graves after witnessing the brutalities of war and death and seeing some forum heroes demanding people to get shot for something like this.

Yes, copper prices rise and it's probably not the right thing to do - but do you seriously believe it "dishonors" the dead? Brings them back to life or something?

Maybe I'm just too 21st century but in case I die I couldn't care less what people do with my remains. I'm dead, my life gone.
Do you want to kill every worm because it eats the dead?

Also, how long do you think people will keep these memorials? In 2000 years everything will be filled with memorials instead of houses if we don't move on.

So yeah, I agree it's not a cool thing to do but the replies I'm seeing here are questionable at best. I'm not seeing that it'd be in the spirit of the fallen ones either to be honest with you.

Skoshi Tiger · #8 08-26-2011, 02:42 AM

I guess your right. If we shot all the unthinking, selfish, self-centered, disrespectful people in the world there wouldn't be many of us left.

The worst case I heard of happened about 10 years ago when a group of women's right activists turned up at an ANZAC day dawn service and threw red paint over the 70 year old veterans while others spray pained the Cenotaph with 'women against rape in war'

Their 'protest' caused more damage to their cause than anything else. Assaulting people to make a point is just plane wrong.

drewpee · #9 08-26-2011, 03:17 PM

[QUOTE=Skoshi Tiger;327170]I guess your right. If we shot all the unthinking, selfish, self-centered, disrespectful people in the world there wouldn't be many of us left.

That's rite and who would run the country?

CWMV · #10 08-26-2011, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Madfish

Probably not making friends with saying this but:

Most of you ask for them to be shot for stealing a plate of cheap copper? Seriously, I wonder if you ever look at what you're saying.

I dont care if it was made of cardboard. It is far more than that. If you dont understand that then you never will

True wartime heroes would probably laugh at this or turn around in their graves after witnessing the brutalities of war and death and seeing some forum heroes demanding people to get shot for something like this.

Are you a wartime hero? I'm not, just a veteran, but even I still do not presume to know their point of view.

Yes, copper prices rise and it's probably not the right thing to do - but do you seriously believe it "dishonors" the dead? Brings them back to life or something?

Yes, it does. Their memory and the sanctity of our national identity are sullied when these vandals do these things. It is an assault on our warriors and on our very nation.

Maybe I'm just too 21st century but in case I die I couldn't care less what people do with my remains. I'm dead, my life gone.
Do you want to kill every worm because it eats the dead?

You just don't get it, not your fault, nothing you could do.

Also, how long do you think people will keep these memorials? In 2000 years everything will be filled with memorials instead of houses if we don't move on.

It is my fondest hope that our memorials to our fallen warriors exist until the ending of the earth, that we may remember them and follow their example.

So yeah, I agree it's not a cool thing to do but the replies I'm seeing here are questionable at best. I'm not seeing that it'd be in the spirit of the fallen ones either to be honest with you.

Well here's where I'm coming from, as a veteran.
A man who has no respect/reverence for their country, its history, or respect for those who have made the ultimate sacrifice in the name of liberty do not deserve to draw breath. Period.
Personally, I question any man who does not put fealty to their family/nation first and foremost in the list of lifes priorities.
And your point of view is something that I find very disturbingly, as you say "21st century". Think of all the men that died to ensure the sovereignty of wherever you hail from. It may not mean a lot to you but they were willing to lay down their lives to ensure that our nation and our way of life remained independent and self governing. If you don't think that that memory, and the monuments to it, are entitled to the highest levels of respect then I simply will never understand your point of view.