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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 08-25-2011, 07:26 AM
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...never before in the history of flightsims so many that where waiting in anticipation for so long have been so let down by so few...

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Old 08-25-2011, 07:30 AM
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It doesn't surprise me, to say the least, but then my once very favourable opinion about Maddox Games has taken a sharp downturn since "the crunch" (as I call it). I do not know if the new leadership is simply swamped with work so that communication with supporting external parties falls prey to time constraints or if they simply don't care. The former would be understandable - but then it would be easy to post a quick sticky on this board saying so - but the latter would be an inexcusable gesture of contempt to those who spent considerable time on making additional stuff for CloD (i.e. Foobar and his railway stuff). I've already heard rumors about a new behavior when it comes to being offered information for Clod and future titles - key phrase here would be "talking down to externals".

Since Oleg departed MG (and no "press release" can take that opinion away from me) the company's policies have taken a sharp turn to the worse simply by ignoring the potential and creativity of the community and the willingness of individuals to spent their freetime to help bolster the flight sim genre with a little research work of their own. If the CloD release has shown one thing then that MG isn't large enough and not "rich" enough to pull of so fundamentally complex projects without outsourcing some non-essential parts to externals ... Ilya, if you read this (which I doubt), start thinking about the way you and your guys are treating the community and the people who could support you.
I think Ilya could take a note from his friend Jason over at 777, I notice that often when new players turn up with issues on the ROF forums he will personally assist them, it's the little things that make the customers want to come back for more, leaving customers up in the air is just bad business, simple as that, not sure if Luthier is the only one at fault but this whole project has been poorly managed from start to finish, of course having a publisher like UBI doesn't help either, they are not exactly known for their customer support.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:38 AM
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i wondered why you hadnt posted for some time in simhq
lol, yes its been a while, the mad thing is that noone even noticed the post i got banned for, even one of the mods contacted me and said he couldn't believe I had been banned for such a post.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:43 AM
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Point is we have heard it all before... its all redundant bitching now... how many times do we need someone to point out what is wrong? *golf clap* for SimHQ.... they get the Captain Obvious award... maybe the need someone writing articles that actual research something new and interesting...

I am gonna write an article about how the sky is blue.... be back later.
you know, I didn't start this thread. Neither did I write that article. But I tend to participate sometimes, to help reminding those in charge that people are waiting.

And why do you even klick on this thread if it's not of interest for you? I mean, I haven't read the "whens the new patch due" thread up until now...
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:43 AM
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That Sim HQ article hits the point!!!
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:50 AM
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Here i though i was about to read a review about CoD the flight sim and instead got a short "how to/how not to" run a business from the most unlikely places of all (who knew).

Oh well, maby next time.
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Old 08-25-2011, 08:28 AM
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I´ll take a bet:

MG / Luthier will not comment this one
as they proofed to have a concerning lack of communication abilities.

But I will be very pleased if I´ll loose the bet.
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Old 08-25-2011, 08:39 AM
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Where are now "the defenders of the CLOD"? Its is an epic failure, it was clear to me after few patches. Dont get me wrong, you should see my disappointed face. I was very sad. Because I was a big fan of IL2 series. I finally accepted that I trashed 45 bucks. Now, finally the truth is said on SimHQ. TBH it was a surprise to me as I thought they are biased. Congrats to them.

Maybe one day we will have "the real CLOD". Until then see you in the skies of Rise of flight.

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Old 08-25-2011, 08:57 AM
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Here i though i was about to read a review about CoD the flight sim and instead got a short "how to/how not to" run a business from the most unlikely places of all (who knew).

Oh well, maby next time.

Yer, when i bought COD i was expecting a "Battle of Britain" sim from the most likely of people...who knew?
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Old 08-25-2011, 09:16 AM
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The article was mainly about the marketing of the sim. I personally didn't but COD due to marketing.

I feel I received most that was I promised (maybe not what some people thought that they were) and I'm confident that we'll get the rest sooner or later. At the moment COD is still the best WWII Combat flight sim that you can buy.

My bet is that after a few bug fixes and added content and all the doom mongers out their will become the most evangelistic fanboys! Then they'll be complaining that us ‘Gen 1’ fanboys should stop complaining!

I'll go with the conclusion of the article –


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WKLINK "Look, I do not really doubt that 1C, Ilya or Oleg really wanted to release CoD in a relatively messed up state. I do believe that the team will try their best to fix this game. If IL-2 has shown me anything it has shown that the 1C team is a team of flight simulation enthusiasts that really love the genre. Knowing that; I am willing to give the team the chance to bring this title up to the standard that the first title was.

I just hope that the team can do it. There are some good aspects of the game present and in its current state the game actually isn’t too terribly bad. The problem is that the team set the bar extremely high with IL-2 originally. Adding IL-2 to the title associates Cliffs of Dover to the original and means the standard had to be higher. I personally didn’t like the idea of putting IL-2 into the name on the game for this very reason. But it was done and the company has decided to tie their future to the past."
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