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[BadAim]

It is an unfortunate truth that most men would much prefer to be slaves so long as the food is good and the taskmaster isn't too harsh.

Chairman Mao said it best; "All political power comes from the barrel of a gun"

Those who would take your liberty must first get your guns, whether or not you hand them over voluntarily is irrelevant.

[BadAim]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Man,that sounds so much Germany 1920-30...

The sad thing is that this is exactly how liberal/socialist politicians think.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by BadAim

It is an unfortunate truth that most men would much prefer to be slaves so long as the food is good and the taskmaster isn't too harsh.

Chairman Mao said it best; "All political power comes from the barrel of a gun"

Those who would take your liberty must first get your guns, whether or not you hand them over voluntarily is irrelevant.

Exactly.. Sheep,nothing more nothing less.

Why thinking when there's a Government and public opinion that does it for you? I was hoping that these riots would at least bring back some common sense in public opinion,but all they did was a witch hunt for the people responsible for this,not the cause,which is an inadequate policing.

[Sternjaeger II]

You know,at first I was surprised that people with such mentality could be in this forum,but then again to them the Battle Of Britain is either a game or something that was fought with good intentions,not firearms.. It's a contradiction in terms that is beyond me.

[nearmiss]

World is full of hypocrisy and most originates in the political realm.

Hitler was elected 1933 98% of majority vote is my understanding.

Hitler did his own will. I was always angered by the fact that the whole world blamed the German people for the holocaust and other atrocities.

Sadly, there is no prevention of atrocities by a population subject to military and political powers. The German people could have done little or nothing to prevent any of the horrible issues associated with Nazi.

The German people were powerless against their own government and well armed armies.

People did resist, but they had to do so in clandestine and non-confrontational manner.

Without guns in the hands of the people, any kind of gun or similar enforcement mechanism,what can anyone do against armed and trained tyrants. Talk doesn't get it, reasonable debate and discussion...LOL

I say if your country has laws against guns you want to do everything you can to keep a stable caring government in power. History and current issues in the world indicate those without guns --- suffer

[Sternjaeger II]

Completely agree Nearmiss.

It's the obstinate denial that leaves me flabbergasted really. Where r u from btw?

[CWMV]

Originally Posted by BadAim

It is an unfortunate truth that most men would much prefer to be slaves so long as the food is good and the taskmaster isn't too harsh...

This made me think of some very powerful words, written by brave men for the benefit of us all.

"all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

[Pudfark]

The value of a "firearm"?
The value of a "knife"?
The value of sheep?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...ey-attack.html

How much do you value yourself?
Others?

[winny]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

So? I still don't get how this is related to the possession of firearms.


Well that's very selfish, discriminatory and anti-democratic of you, and again, you can still legally detain and use firearms in this country. What if tomorrow they told you "we're banning videogames because they incite violence", would you be cool with that? And what's next? Uh yeah I tell you what, the Government proposed to BLOCK all social networks in case of further riots! Ha! Anything else? Shall we also lube our backholes? Why is the law abiding citizen that need to pay for the deficiencies of our policing system? Wake up!!!

Just because I don't agree with you my opinion is undemocratic?

WTF?

I think that that the very fact you call someone undemocratic simply for having the opposite opinion is the antethesis of Democracy - I am a citizen of the UK and am entitled to a view. STFU!

I'm talking about guns not video games, twitter or buggery.

I don't want guns to be common in my country, I'm not here to debate it I'm here to say what I think. Is that ok with you Mr democracy?

[Vengeanze]

Originally Posted by BadAim

Chairman Mao said it best; "All political power comes from the barrel of a gun"

He also said:
"In order to get rid of the gun it is necessary to take up the gun."

So you guys are trying to disarm the world?