August 6 2011 Development Update

[Frequent_Flyer]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

I would love to get a German trainer as a flyable. At least, something with metric measurements.

We have the 109 as a German trainer, slow, hard to stall,easy to recover and ugly like most trainers.

[katdogfizzow]

Originally Posted by SYN_Bliss

Is it scaling like it should? No.

I'd be curious what a HardwareMonitoring.hml reveals. You should fire up a MSI afterburner log and post the results.

[Blackdog_kt]

Well, first of all, there are test builds and versions of the sim that we haven't yet seen. Those patches don't materialize out of thin air. Whether the dev team has a build that works with SLI under optimization (and thus, not yet suitable for release) is anyone's guess and for every negative guess there's a positive one too.

And now for the red text that some apparently can't get enough of...

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

lol, Havoc your just miffed because i proved you wrong, Im still waiting on that apology by the way.

Quit it with the point scoring. You come up with a valid question (however repetitive) and then figuratively spit in your own bowl of cereal out of spite. After all, if we wanted to keep track of apologies in an impartial manner you'd be one long overdue for claiming Ubisoft was not the publisher.

Generally speaking, expect a thread clean-up pretty soon if this goes on (some baiting and others responding to it)

[Timberwolf]

Here's some helpful news While UBIJOKE is still charging full price. Just flight is charging £13.99 €19.99 $19.99 this weekend PS glad to hear SLI is working i just bought a 2nd card

[Baron]

Tree:


A while ago u asked Luthier "is Sli supported?", Luthier answered: "of course it is, why wouldnt it be" (like asking if headphones is supported hence Luthiers answer)

So far so good, you got the answer to your question.

Now u are wondering why Sli isnt working like it should for everyone (not the same thing as: is Sli supported) and THAT is a question you have to ask NVidia (and AMD/Crossfire). The answer to that is: because none of the company's have made a profile specifically for Cliffs of Dover, simple as that.

It works with global settings but its not working as well as it could, again, because there are no profile specifically for CloD. Its the same with virtually all games until NVidia and AMD see fit to add a profile. It was the same with IL2 Sturmovik. Sli and Crossfire has only become popular in the last few years and there where never a profile from either company that enabled this for IL2 Sturmovik. There where ways to get it to work. i personally had a hell of i time getting my 4870x2 to run even close to its potential simply because AMD felt they had better things to do than add a profile for a 8 year old game that no one outside the flightsim community ever heard of. Same thing now, NVidia and AMD are real guick adding profiles for Battlefield or Call of Duty or Crysis2 (witch took a couple of months iirc, same with DX11 in fact, Crysis was not released in DX11 if u wanna go into that debate to), a flight sim is another matter entirely.

I could be wrong but as far as i know it took RoF until May this year before even adding Sli/Crossfire support.

Read this if you somehow think CloD is the exception: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.ph...ml#Post3330564 (Btw not a dig of any sort towards RoF, just want to show that supported and working Sli/crossfire is not as given as many seem to think. RoF is just one example)

[jimbop]

So the nvidia-created SLI profiles are more than just pre-defined settings that you can already make in the nvidia control panel? I thought that's all the profiles were...

[Baron]

Read this driver readme for ex: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-wi...ql-driver.html


For ex. performance boosts for specific card in specific games, those boosts just don't appear out of thin air. Sli and Crossfire implies that 2 or more gpu`s have to work together and not against each other, that doesn't just happen on its own. Not all games work the same way/is coded the same way hence different profiles to get maximum boost. Sli does work with global settings but not as good as it can with a specific profile. (witch in tales more than just pre defined settings made in the control panel)

Originally Posted by Baron

Tree:


A while ago u asked Luthier "is Sli supported?", Luthier answered: "of course it is, why wouldnt it be" (like asking if headphones is supported hence Luthiers answer)

So far so good, you got the answer to your question.

Now u are wondering why Sli isnt working like it should for everyone (not the same thing as: is Sli supported) and THAT is a question you have to ask NVidia (and AMD/Crossfire). The answer to that is: because none of the company's have made a profile specifically for Cliffs of Dover, simple as that.

It works with global settings but its not working as well as it could, again, because there are no profile specifically for CloD. Its the same with virtually all games until NVidia and AMD see fit to add a profile. It was the same with IL2 Sturmovik. Sli and Crossfire has only become popular in the last few years and there where never a profile from either company that enabled this for IL2 Sturmovik. There where ways to get it to work. i personally had a hell of i time getting my 4870x2 to run even close to its potential simply because AMD felt they had better things to do than add a profile for a 8 year old game that no one outside the flightsim community ever heard of. Same thing now, NVidia and AMD are real guick adding profiles for Battlefield or Call of Duty or Crysis2 (witch took a couple of months iirc, same with DX11 in fact, Crysis was not released in DX11 if u wanna go into that debate to), a flight sim is another matter entirely.

I could be wrong but as far as i know it took RoF until May this year before even adding Sli/Crossfire support.

Read this if you somehow think CloD is the exception: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.ph...ml#Post3330564 (Btw not a dig of any sort towards RoF, just want to show that supported and working Sli/crossfire is not as given as many seem to think. RoF is just one example)

Hi Baron, when i asked luthier that question it was during development, since then he has stated that SLi and Crossfire work. You dont have to have a profile from nvidia to make it work, if the game supports SLI you can make your own profile, its the same as applying FSAA to the game, people have tried this also through the nvidia driver overiding any in game settings, but like SLI it doesn't work becuase the game currently doesn't support it.
Some of the forum members have been trying already with varying degrees of success to make their own profiles, although to date Ive not heard any results from anyone using nHancer which is by far the best program to use for getting SLI to work.
Anyway cast your minds back to the original Il2, that had a profile for SLI with Nvidia drivers, but the profile was very poor, In order to get the best out of IL2 you had to make your profile where SLI was concerned. I guess that my real point is that Luthier has claimed that he left the 2D clouds out of the last patch because it was effecting SLI, the question I am asking is how does he know that? How did he test that with SLI, if like most are saying that SLI will not work without Nvidia, do you see where i am going with this. People are saying that SLI works of sorts but nothing like it should do, if thats the case give us the 2D clouds and fix SLI later.

[JG52Krupi]

Tree I dont have sli but I have seen more ppl say it's working than it isn't, so if you want something to complain about let's swap our gpus and you can see what it's like to get a drop in fps due to crappy xfire support.

However I am waiting patiently along with three over 5970 users all experiencing the same issues.

[Welshman]

xfire does work but its a little buggy ,only way i have got it working was to uninstall the CCC ( control center only "or whatever its called now" )

then use radeon pro and create a profile for COD , i get double the FPS than with 1 card, only issue is with the prop , though this could be tearing so i still have to test with V-sync on .