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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 08-11-2011, 01:29 PM
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Im no aerodynamics engineer but regarding your comment on the yaw and position of the prop I would have thought that having the engine placed lower would lead to better control as the higher prop would lead to more of the surface being affected by prop wash??
yes, in order to be efficient, a control surface needs to be in a good airflow, with propwash the air gets rammed down along the fuselage and into the control surfaces,making the surface more efficient. The problem is that the movement is turbulent and circular, so if you don't have a long tail surface it might affect lateral stability (and do what he mentions in the video, tending to turn, mainly because there's no trim on the 109/Buchon rudder).

So once again, Messerschmitt engineers got it right, and improved things with the tall rudder versions.
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Old 08-11-2011, 01:39 PM
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Old 08-11-2011, 03:11 PM
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Old 08-11-2011, 03:12 PM
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All airplanes are beautiful! If given a chance I would not refuse to drive a Buchon.
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Old 08-11-2011, 03:33 PM
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All airplanes are beautiful! If given a chance I would not refuse to drive a Buchon.
Ban this man NOW! The buchon is an abomination as is a db605 engined spit...
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Ban this man NOW! The buchon is an abomination as is a db605 engined spit...
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Old 08-11-2011, 05:27 PM
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All airplanes are beautiful! If given a chance I would not refuse to drive a Buchon.
this Spanish version of the original Famous Bf-109....
i would not refuse to drive it either
ugly as it was..
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Strange as it looks, the different cowling seems to be putting some missing and much needed machismo and menacing looks back into that otherwise girly-looking aircraft.

/ducks and covers

What can i say, i like the brutish ones better. I'm not RAF-averse, the Spits just look fragile by nature. Hawker designs on the other hand not only mean business but look the part too, and everyone looking at a Typhoon or Hurricane can see it
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