Arguments, speculations, rants and generally off-topic/repetitive topics megathread

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by Rattlehead

Just a quick question...

Is this the off-topic thread that Nearmiss proposed a while back? Judging from what Blackdog has said, I don't think so.
If someone can clear this up, I'd appreciate it.

Off topic discussions are certainly ok in here but actually this thread is pretty generic, so i don't know how easy it would be to keep track of a longer conversation with a more focused subject matter.

This is more like a place to vent some frustration, speculate and engage in forum dueling without taking over unrelated threads, which means a single thread can do the job because personal exchanges between members are either short or repetitive in nature and as such, easier to keep track of for the participants without needing dedicated threads.

What Nearmiss proposed was an entire off-topic section. I don't want to overstep my boundaries, being the new guy and all, so i'm not going to do something i haven't cleared with him or Alpha first but if you guys want such a section i'll ask them about it.

Originally Posted by klem

It's a nice try Blackdog but you'll never win or you'll find yourself on a 24/7 mission.

I know you're trying to keep threads clean and readable and I wish it could be so but I think you're flogging a dead horse. People can't resist replying to a post they feel strongly about, time and again. Some of course are just there to goad.

I'm an offender too (not a goader I hope) but I'm trying to resist re-entering old arguments and thats not easy when someone has actually quoted your post.

Most of these repetitive threads don't really need to be worried about. They just take up server space. Let them vent their spleens. The fact is that anything in a thread past about page 3 is either a valuable piece of work (not often) or has become a general discussion or a competely worthless slanging match. You can definitely tell by page 5! Just act on the justified 'reported' posts and if necessary ban people. It won't stop them though, they'll either create a new account or come back after the ban.

My advice to people that don't like certain posters is to add them to their ignore list and let their blood presure come down. Its working a treat for me and one well known Troll ('Troll' IMHO). I would also suggest people assess the thread for the first few pages and decide whether its even worth bothering with. Why repeat an argument that's already been posted? (I know, I know, and I'm trying.) Back round the circle, if they do keep bothering with it, let them get on with it.

Actually i thought i was up for some trouble but i was surprised how easy it is: instead of having to plead with everyone who might derail a perfectly good thread to let the rest of the participants have the kind of discussion they set out to (and getting sucked into the off-topic debates myself), all it takes is clicking a few check-boxes to select some posts and pressing the "move" button.

It actually saves me a lot of time, because i don't have to quote and answer every person that might be going off-topic and ask them to stay on the original subject. Hopefully it saves the same amount of time for the other participants.

Other than that i browse the forum daily, sometimes twice a day, so it's pretty easy to keep track of things and sooner or later most people will be coming here on their own if they just want to have a bit of a verbal brawl. If for example i'm having a one-on-one exchange with somebody in another thread and we're going off topic, i might as well ask him "hey, let's take this to the arguments thread, will reply to you there, is this ok?".

In other words, the workload is pretty light (much lighter than having to reply to and convince people not to derail threads): the forum interface is easy to use and the amount of duelists is not that big anyway.

[Rattlehead]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

Off topic discussions are certainly ok in here but actually this thread is pretty generic, so i don't know how easy it would be to keep track of a longer conversation with a more focused subject matter.

This is more like a place to vent some frustration, speculate and engage in forum dueling without taking over unrelated threads, which means a single thread can do the job because personal exchanges between members are either short or repetitive in nature and as such, easier to keep track of for the participants without needing dedicated threads.

What Nearmiss proposed was an entire off-topic section. I don't want to overstep my boundaries, being the new guy and all, so i'm not going to do something i haven't cleared with him or Alpha first but if you guys want such a section i'll ask them about it.

Cool. Thanks for clearing it up.

[TeeJay82]

Beep Beep, im a jeep

Well the forum is dead, all the bugs have been reported, the complainers have been silenced, all you guys are left with is DAVID HAYWARD. Enjoy, i will come back when Ive got less time.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Well the forum is dead, all the bugs have been reported, the complainers have been silenced, all you guys are left with is DAVID HAYWARD. Enjoy, i will come back when Ive got less time.

Actually, I haven't posted anything today until now. But, as long as I'm here, the non-whining atmosphere is a definite improvement. Thanks for noticing!

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Actually, I haven't posted anything today until now. But, as long as I'm here, the non-whining atmosphere is a definite improvement. Thanks for noticing!

yeah, that's what we needed: the self-proclaimed forum cop, who really thinks he's doing good for the community! Way to go, Sheriff Joe!

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

yeah, that's what we needed: the self-proclaimed forum cop, who really thinks he's doing good for the community! Way to go, Sheriff Joe!

I really wish I could take credit for this, but the real credit must go to everyone who complained about the whining, and the mods who did something about it.

[Pudfark]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Well the forum is dead, all the bugs have been reported, the complainers have been silenced, all you guys are left with is DAVID HAYWARD. Enjoy, i will come back when Ive got less time.

"You can lead a horse to water...but, you can't make him drink"
"Ignorance is bliss"
"Blind leading the blind"

All of the remarks above attributed to those who won't read?
What isn't written...on the wall.

Tree_UK, I'd turn a pint upside down with you anytime, pardner...
Thanx for your contributions here on the forums...I have much enjoyed
the accuracy of what you have written....

[Chivas]

This is a nice break from the "endless sky is falling posts". Patience is so much more serene.

[nearmiss]

After dozens of postings and PM messages requesting an Off Topic forums you now have it.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/forumdisplay.php?f=205

Pilot's Lounge - All the rules apply with a few additions, which will be posted in the Pilot's Lounge soon.

ON TOPIC DISCUSSIONS fall along these lines of discussion categories -

Cliffs of Dover
Diadalos Team
Forgotten Battles (IL2 series)
Historical War (not current wars)
Historical air combat
Flight Simulation
Warbirds aircraft
Mods and Skins discussion

OFF TOPIC DISCUSSIONS are outside the above, along with the other not so nice discussions we've had to deal with for several months.

You can even discuss your old dog "fido", or your lousy divorce.

Just stay within the rules of the forums