hello luthier!

[Ataros]

Funboys improve sales and encourage the devs.

Whiners reduce sales and discourage the devs.

Quite simple.

Originally Posted by Ataros

Funboys improve sales and encourage the devs.

Whiners reduce sales and discourage the devs.

Quite simple.

Customers make their choice with their money....

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Opitz

Customers make their choice with their money....

That`s the smartest, most clever thing you`ve written here since a while.

You do know the responsibility that comes with the value of choice, do you?

We are reaching new philosophical frontiers here... but let's get back down to the Earth... What about to start doing what customers want?

Originally Posted by Ataros

Funboys improve sales and encourage the devs.

Whiners reduce sales and discourage the devs.

Quite simple.

The question is who is who? Im a fanboy but not hypnotised die hard fan. I can (with my experience) report and discover some things which can help devs. (and I did). But I have a right to say whats wrong. Maybe some hypnotised die hard fanboy will only "defend" this sim on forums. So who contributed more?

Originally Posted by Opitz

Customers make their choice with their money....

True. BUT. This sim was advertised as finished product with all the pics and videos misleading whats inside the box. One would assume they get rid of main bugs through beta testing and core testing. No, Im not talking about usual stuff (bugs) which could be fixed via patches in few weeks, but MAIN PROBS (sound, ghost trees, performance ON MODERN RIGS, epilepsy filters, working GUI on release etc etc) for which they will NEED MONTHS (as Luthier stated) to fix. Luthier personaly told us we will get NEW external engine sounds (for example) and we got old IL2 farting sounds which even not working online after some time. Also no mention of anti epilepsy crap and so on...some things which was included in promo previews never reached released version of the game...we can go forever...
tbh It would be fair from them to accept returns for guys who want they money back. Why not if sims sells well and if everything is OK? Tell me, why not?!
I wanted to sell my copy and nobody asked.....that tells you alot...and now it goes for 10-15 bucks....and it was 50 bucks at release. Thats a spit in to the eyes of the most faithful customers...and you call us whiners...game is working fine for you? Great! Now, come to our side of the fence....

[JG52Krupi]

Your a fanboy... No tvrdi your not..

"the landscape is a vivid nuclear green and is crap"

That's not a fanboy statement just a whinge.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by jg52krupi

your a fanboy... No tvrdi your not..

"the landscape is a vivid nuclear green and is crap"

that's not a fanboy statement just a whinge.

lol

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Your a fanboy... No tvrdi your not..

"the landscape is a vivid nuclear green and is crap"

That's not a fanboy statement just a whinge.

whinge,Statement or fact?

How do you conclude that to be a whinge?

[Vittuuntunut]

Originally Posted by carguy_

... I also bought this game for multiplayer and I can`t fly online, but I know all this will come. In the meantime I play other games, and mostly LIVE to do other , more important things in life. For example today in the morning I traveled 50 miles to hospital to take my cousin who had a surgery knee operation, went back , set him up in his house and here I am writing at the forums. He won`t be able to play basketball no more.
You seem to have only the PC in your life. That is not good, you should change it. Maybe do something for other people for a change.

Oh, please! Of course there are more important things in life and much worse things can happend than ending up buying a bad videogame (and sorry ´bout your cousin). That is self-explanatory.

BUT, when I want to discuss or do something about, for example, the third world poverty & hunger, I do it elsewhere. If I want to discuss the lack of human rights somewhere, I go to Amnesty-forums. If I on the other hand want to discuss about the bad product I bought and possibly warn others not to make same mistake, I come here. SINCE I BOUGHT THIS GAME AND EXPECTED IT TO BE EVEN REASONABLY GOOD OR REASONALBLY QUICKLY PATCHABLE!

This forums is for this game, it´s pros and cons. So far the cons seem to outnumber the pros for many, and for many (like me) , patches seem to do little good. AND what is most important, the marketing "strategy" of 1C is laughable and should not be tolerated.

[furbs]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Your a fanboy... No tvrdi your not..

"the landscape is a vivid nuclear green and is crap"

That's not a fanboy statement just a whinge.

But true, esp with no trees.