IL2 Expansion coming in September???

[JG53Harti]

Not only a simple campain ! 5 Campains including some reading stuff and printed maps.
So they have done a good job offering good missions not like you can find it now in the game.
There is nearly nothing for offliners in the game now. Not all players like the online gangbang we have now. Missing coops and offline material is what we have now ( or not ).
They found a way to make the game more interessting for players which prefers not to be part of a balboo.

[JG53Frankyboy]

i actually dont understand some comments in this topic.................Desastersoft build and sold campaigns already for IL2'46. Some people purchased them, for others the free available ones were enough, other flew only online. Nobody complained IIRC.

Why now in IL2:CoD ??
The gamecontent (offline AND online) came, comes and will come always from 3.Party - 1C is making only the technical basis. Some of the 3.Party work for free, some want get some money for thier efforts.

Personaly i have to ad, after exprerince in missionbuilding with IL2'46, the FMB in IL2:CoD might look very similar, but as soon you get deeper behind its features - you are almost lost without special programming knowledge and with the total lack of official documentation. Im curious to see how much free campaigns will be released in the future in comparison the IL2'46 times......................

Originally Posted by JG53Harti

Not only a simple campain ! 5 Campains including some reading stuff and printed maps.
So they have done a good job offering good missions not like you can find it now in the game.
There is nearly nothing for offliners in the game now. Not all players like the online gangbang we have now. Missing coops and offline material is what we have now ( or not ).
They found a way to make the game more interessting for players which prefers not to be part of a balboo.

Only problem is, just like the modders have found.
You can only do a moderate job at these things as the code for the game is still broken meaning their current efforts wont be as good as when the game is fixed and everything works better for them to make stuff with. So i wont buy this time round.

Maybe when the code works properly I'll think about buying a re-written one...maybe.

[robtek]

Be assured, as i've seen in the demo that they've programmed some workarounds, so the bugs of the game are hidden relatively well, as long as you follow the mission parameters.

[Rattlehead]

Originally Posted by desastersoft

But as you mentoined: Free World and nobody is beaten to buy it. Most we sell to our Fans of our Series. We don´t get rich with it, believe me .

cheers
Thomas

My credit card is waiting...
Thanks for your efforts.

[adonys]

nobody is saying those campaigns are not good, they might even be the greatest campaigns ever made (even tough I highly doubt it, considering what I've saw in the demo, il2cod user made campaigns are easily way better than that).

point is, we've paid like 40 euros or something for the FULL IL2CoD game (I've paid like 50 for my collector's edition). that includes a 3D engine, client-server architecture, dedicated server, AI, FM & DM, plane modelling& texturing, terrain modelling & texturing, FMB, mission scripting engine, 2 campaigns and some missions, GUI, sound engine and sounds and so on..

and you are asking 30 euros for 3 campaigns (because the other 3 are the same, just with less planes/vehicles) and some texturing, and call it a fair trade?!!

whoever is so fool to pay that price for them, be my guest, we're in a free world.

but to come in here, and claim that is a fair price for what the user would get in exchange is simply outrageous! have you no shame, or you consider us so stupid, that we can't even grasp the insult?!!

is not our problem that you can't reduce the costs, as it would not be our problem if someone would want to sell us a 1 euro bread for 100 because "those were his costs". I am totally for 3rd party IL2CoD development, but at a fair price in exchange for what we're offered, if you want to sell more than a few units..

even more, economics also learn us that fooling 100 individuals to pay those waay overpriced 30 euros would earn you less in the end than sell it to a few thousands individuals (which is the real potential market target for Il2 CoD 3rd party addons at this time) for a fair price which should be 5-10 euros.. it's a simple math..

and in the end, we want respect, same as we're offering. you can come, and present us your offer, and we can give you our feedback, and buy it if we find it a good trade and if we want to. but please, do not insult us or our intelligence with claims like the above.

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by adonys

..................and you are asking 30 euros for 3 campaigns (because the other 3 are the same, just with less planes/vehicles) ...................

sounds different:
"6 Campaigns in two Versions: Low (for low end Computers) and High (for medium and power mashines)

Fighter Aces! Major Helmut Wick - 25+ Missions
Fighter Aces! Flight Lieutenant J. C. Dundas - 13 Missions
No. 609 Squadrons - Spitfire - 42 Missions
No. 111 Squadron - Hurricanes - 27+ Missions
Erprobungsgruppe 210 - ME 110 - Fighter Bombers over England - 30 Missions
3./JG 2 "Richthofen - Bf 109 - 40 Missions"

for me its actually 6 campaigns , each of them has a heavy and light version.

[adonys]

yes, my mistake, they seem indeed to be six, if that's the case, but this fact doesn't change the dates of the problem at all

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by adonys

..................... of the problem at all

that should be the decission of everyone of his own IMHO

one knows what one gets, one knows the price - one can decide. Dont understand the 'fuss' about it ?!

and if one is able to find a better offline experiece for free, the better it is !

[Rattlehead]

"Worth" is a very subjective term.
If someone has a lot of fun with this add-on, then perhaps for him it is worth the money?