What a tracer should look like (before spazzing just look).

[ElAurens]

Exactly.

Bullets do have a trajectory in the form of an arc. They rise after exiting the barrel then fall off (down) after some distance (100s of yards in the case of rifles and heavy machine guns). Bullets do not curve to either side no matter how fast the barrel is traversing. Once it leaves the barrel it travels in a straight line.

They are not like baseballs that can be made to curve mid flight because of aerodynamic effects on the stitching on the ball's cover. Bullets spin at a high rate for a reason. This is to make them stable in flight so they go straight.

[Phazon]

My main concern with the current tracers effect is its way too clean looking.

I would imagine in real-life a tracer would have a sort of burn-in effect on your eyes where you would see an afterimage of the tracer which would make it appear longer with a fading trail. The tracer rounds in ArmA 2 are like this and to me it looks more like the real-thing.

I'm only just going off things that I've seen that are really bright such as burning magnesium and welding, but I imagine tracer rounds would be very similar.

[Wolf_Rider]

I agree... a fading out, not a tapering off

[yellonet]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Exactly.

Bullets do have a trajectory in the form of an arc. They rise after exiting the barrel then fall off (down) after some distance (100s of yards in the case of rifles and heavy machine guns).

Bullets only rise because the barrel is pointing up, and there's no set distance for when the bullet drops below the aim point, that's up to bullet speed and how high you aim.

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Bullets do not curve to either side no matter how fast the barrel is traversing. Once it leaves the barrel it travels in a straight line.

They don't curve, but the sidewards motion of the barrel will be transferred to the bullet. If the bullet travels in direction x while being fired it will continue to do so after it leaves the barrel.

[yellonet]

Could someone please create a movie of this effect in the game, I have not seen it.

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by yellonet

Bullets only rise because the barrel is pointing up, and there's no set distance for when the bullet drops below the aim point, that's up to bullet speed and how high you aim. They don't curve, but the sidewards motion of the barrel will be transferred to the bullet. If the bullet travels in direction x while being fired it will continue to do so after it leaves the barrel.

Um, no, to the lot of this.

[yellonet]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Um, no, to the lot of this.

So what you are saying is that the bullet will defy gravity and rise when being fired, instead of starting to drop as soon as it leaves the barrel.
Sorry but that is a myth created by people that doesn't understand how it really works, but please explain.

And you are also denying that if you as an example drive a car at 20 m/s and you fire a shot from that car at 90º to the right, after 1 second that shot will have gone the right (relative the direction of the shot) (about) 20 meters.
Please explain why this doesn't happen.

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by yellonet

So what you are saying is that the bullet will defy gravity and rise when being fired, instead of starting to drop as soon as it leaves the barrel.
Sorry but that is a myth created by people that doesn't understand how it really works, but please explain.

And you are also denying that if you as an example drive a car at 20 m/s and you fire a shot from that car at 90º to the right, after 1 second that shot will have gone the right (relative the direction of the shot) (about) 20 meters.
Please explain why this doesn't happen.

I suggest doing research on external ballistics for a start. Then perhaps spend five+ years as a competition shooter, 30+ years as an avid collector and shooter, then get back to me.

As to your automotive example, the projectile will not have curved to the right. It will have flown straight from the time it left the barrel. What will have happened is that your position in the car will have moved forward the 20 meters. Or are you trying to say that if you fire the weapon while travelling at that speed then miraculously stop dead, that the bullet will curve to the right?

LOL!!!

[yellonet]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

I suggest doing research on external ballistics for a start. Then perhaps spend five+ years as a competition shooter, 30+ years as an avid collector and shooter, then get back to me.

With all that experience I'm sure you can explain the physics that introduce the upwards force on the bullet making it go against gravity.

Originally Posted by ElAurens

As to your automotive example, the projectile will not have curved to the right. It will have flown straight from the time it left the barrel. What will have happened is that your position in the car will have moved forward the 20 meters. Or are you trying to say that if you fire the weapon while travelling at that speed then miraculously stop dead, that the bullet will curve to the right?

LOL!!!

The bullet will not curve but will travel diagonally.
How do you explain the force on the bullet given by the moving car just disappearing when the bullet is fired?

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

I suggest doing research on external ballistics for a start. Then perhaps spend five+ years as a competition shooter, 30+ years as an avid collector and shooter, then get back to me.

As to your automotive example, the projectile will not have curved to the right. It will have flown straight from the time it left the barrel. What will have happened is that your position in the car will have moved forward the 20 meters. Or are you trying to say that if you fire the weapon while travelling at that speed then miraculously stop dead, that the bullet will curve to the right?

LOL!!!

Lol like that film where angelina jolie bends the bullet around the meat hanging up...Was that not real then?