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Old 07-13-2011, 08:29 PM
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Trouble is we have no Allied warship launched recon planes.

The Curtiss SOC Seagull would be a good one to have for the Allies, and the Misubishi F1M "Pete" for the IJN.
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Trouble is we have no Allied warship launched recon planes.

The Curtiss SOC Seagull would be a good one to have for the Allies, and the Misubishi F1M "Pete" for the IJN.
I think catapult-launched Hurricanes were common for the North Sea convoys (although it was a one-way trip for them!). But you're right about the battleship launched planes, not too sure about US ships, but King George V battleships carried the as yet un-modeled Supermarine Walrus.
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Old 07-14-2011, 11:36 AM
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Well, we won't get the Walrus, as that is a Cliffs of Dover model and TD cannot use it, sadly.

THe Curtiss SOC served the USN throughout the war, even as it's replacement, the Kingfisher monoplane came on the scene.
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Well, we won't get the Walrus, as that is a Cliffs of Dover model and TD cannot use it, sadly.

THe Curtiss SOC served the USN throughout the war, even as it's replacement, the Kingfisher monoplane came on the scene.
The Curtiss will have to do then, I guess...

Thinking about the idea as a whole though, I've started thinking that it's a bit gimmicky. As much as I'd like the feature, the missions it'd be used for would be a bit repetative...
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It would be nice to see another flyable seaplane, particularly if it could be catapult launched.

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If we do go down the road of catapult-launched aircraft, maybe a new ship?


Japanese I-400 class submarine


Would involve modelling of the Aichi M6A Seiran to go with it, but could make for some interesting alternate history missions in Pacific theatre...

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Old 07-14-2011, 04:44 PM
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The I 400s were not the only IJN submarines that deployed seaplanes.

The Kugisho E14Y Glen was carried on the smaller seaplane launching subs and was the only Axis aircraft to bomb the continental United States, though the attack was ineffective.

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Old 07-16-2011, 07:05 PM
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The Curtiss SOC Seagull would be a good one to have for the Allies, and the Misubishi F1M "Pete" for the IJN.
If some plane designer were to get the urge to model catapult-launched float planes, these would be my choices:

USN: Vought OS2U Kingfisher (most important operationally and numerically). Free of copyright, but not as good: Curtiss SOC Seagull, SOC3 Seamew or SC Seahawk.

RN: Swordfish Mk I (with floats) or Fairey Seafox, Supermarine Walrus (off-limits due to CloD) or Supermarine Sea Otter. Also, US lend-lease designs could substitute; the RN used the SO3C Seamew.

IJN: Mitsubishi F1M Pete, Aichi E13A Jake.

VVS: Beriev Be-4/KOR-2.

Regia Marina: IMAM Ro-43

France: Liore 130

The problem is that the sort of work that patrol/recce floatplanes did doesn't lend itself to in-game action. In the game, they're just targets and there are already plenty of planes which serve that role.

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The problem is that the sort of work that patrol/recce floatplanes did doesn't lend itself to in-game action. In the game, they're just targets and there are already plenty of planes which serve that role.
When I first had the idea I was actually thinking of SeaHurricanes used on the Arctic convoys.

And I don't think the game is past a bit of patrol/recce work, I've had to fly SAR missions in the past which just involved me flying over the pacific ocean looking for a pilot in a raft....

Could use the floatplanes for ASW mission for a larger carrier group maybe?
Put some depth charges in game and take on those submerged subs!
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Could use the floatplanes for ASW mission for a larger carrier group maybe? Put some depth charges in game and take on those submerged subs!
I agree. ASW would be an interesting area which hasn't been covered (at least from the aerial sub-hunter's point of view) and would fit in nicely with some of the strike-fighter, navigation and electronic warfare mods which have been developed.

SAR operations would take more more work, such as animated swimming figures or figures in lifeboats or life rafts.
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