crash at duxford today [2011]

[engadin]

A perfect video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmsJW...layer_embedded

BTW, where was the Skyrider pilot looking at? He had the whole bl***y sky for him to fly through but that tiny room occupied by the P-51 itself! Sorry, but I feel so terribly ungry .....

Engadin

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by engadin

A perfect video here:

BTW, where was the Skyrider pilot looking at? He had the whole bl***y sky for him to fly through but that tiny room occupied by the P-51 itself! Sorry, but I feel so terribly ungry .....

Engadin

I have to say I agree, the skyraider pilot seemed at fault, but did a great job bringing it home.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by engadin

A perfect video here:

BTW, where was the Skyrider pilot looking at? He had the whole bl***y sky for him to fly through but that tiny room occupied by the P-51 itself! Sorry, but I feel so terribly ungry .....

Engadin

first of all thanks for the very good video, and yes, it's obvious the Skyrider pilot lost visual contact and went too brisk on his manoeuvre, but it's again a fault of who organised the Balbo itself, you don't break off from a Vic formation like that with planes that operate at different speeds. We'll see what the CAA will tell.

[Mysticpuma]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

first of all thanks for the very good video, and yes, it's obvious the Skyrider pilot lost visual contact and went too brisk on his manoeuvre, but it's again a fault of who organised the Balbo itself, you don't break off from a Vic formation like that with planes that operate at different speeds. We'll see what the CAA will tell.

GHOUL!!!!!!! Lol!

Shame the video has been removed though

[II./JG1_Wilcke]

Depends, on how the pre-flight brief went down. Aviation is very unforgiving of any inattentions or mistakes.

The Skyraider is a beast of an aircraft, loads of damage and it still made it home!

[Trumper]

Originally Posted by Mysticpuma

GHOUL!!!!!!! Lol!

Shame the video has been removed though

May be this one http://www.flyingfilm.co.uk/

[SEE]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

first of all thanks for the very good video, and yes, it's obvious the Skyrider pilot lost visual contact and went too brisk on his manoeuvre, but it's again a fault of who organised the Balbo itself, you don't break off from a Vic formation like that with planes that operate at different speeds. We'll see what the CAA will tell.

This was a two day event, the Balbo was faultless on the Saturday but they were flying in groups of four not three as on the Sunday, the separation as each pilot left the formation seemed much bigger (as the order went 1, 3, 2 then 4 ?). The commentary broadcast during the entire Balbo was very detailed regards the final break away /timing, etc. Such a pity but it does look like that Skyraider got it wrong.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by SEE

This was a two day event, the Balbo was faultless on the Saturday but they were flying in groups of four not three as on the Sunday, the separation as each pilot left the formation seemed much bigger (as the order went 1, 3, 2 then 4 ?). The commentary broadcast during the entire Balbo was very detailed regards the final break away /timing, etc. Such a pity but it does look like that Skyraider got it wrong.

yeah, I know their routine very well, I was there on Saturday and yet again, like every year, I thought that the way they do things put them in an unnecessary risk.

The Skyrider pilot got it wrong because it looks like he lost visual contact with the Mustang, or didn't respect the speeds agreed on the briefing, or a combination of all these.

[Buzpilot]

http://player.vimeo.com/video/26291756?

Looking at the slow speed part, the P-51 looks undammaged, Skyraider lost part of wing, but managed to land.
Did P-51 pilot panic, or was elevators uncontrollable?

[bongodriver]

after an impact like that there is no way the P51 would be 'undamaged' and that is exactly where the elevator and rudder control runs are, I am surprised the P51 didn't loose it's tail completely, so I don't think the pilot paniced any more than was necessary, hell I wouldn't blame him for bailing even if the aircraft was initially controllable, you saw how low the parachute opened.