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Old 12-10-2007, 02:25 PM
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Thats the whole point, we dont know anything about Olegs intentions in the future. Maby he DID intend for 3:rd party modding, mods sanctioned by him? Who knows....thats a moot point by now.
That would contradict everything he said across the year.
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Old 12-10-2007, 05:10 PM
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That would contradict everything he said across the year.
Well, ever thought of the possibility that Oleg doesnt tell us everything?


If it where me i would have left IL2 alone after the last announced pach untill after BoB was released and THEN sell the rights to 3:rd party modders (with olegs aproval on sertain things) thus having the 2 best flightssims on the market at the same time.

But thats just me.


Instead he most likely have a soon to be dead IL2 BEFORE BoB comes out and when BoB gets out..everything hinges on that sim`s success

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Old 12-10-2007, 05:59 PM
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Yvan this is a very interesting point.. Now lets see just something like just the canopy of the FW-190 A8.. This has been asked before in many occasions..






This is imo a much correct model then the original with the Canopy of the A9..

What i see that there is a lot of little things that are not very good in the mod / hack and others that are good , I have many arguments with a certain famous guy at SIMHQ that make maps and I can tell you that some hackers/moder are making already "better" work with out really the good tools than this simqh's person with tools. I don't know why .... well... hum.. lets not go there..

Now lets take a look at some new textures.. not bad isn't it..

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The best like i said before would be to be able to close compile some of this.. I don't think il2 is dead but it's becoming more like BOB2 until some of this get compiled
yes there are many guys that they don't know much about some things i agree with you Yvan but also il2 can and could of be so much better by far....
It is very hard to change very but now lets face it the Third party now have to make things even much better and maybe take some samples of mister Joe-Smock's hack model or ideas.
I agree that it's not good to post links but images that maybe those new third party will take in concideration.. like the A8..? i do..

I do not use il2 no more I do my own stuff.
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Old 12-10-2007, 07:27 PM
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1) Believe it or not.. 1946 still sells, but i am sure that will stop soon, if not already (who wants to buy hacked sim - raise your hands!)
2) Pulling progamming lead off SOW development - That`s not free either...
3) And possible sale of IL-2 to third party as already mentioned....
1) What? Apart from LOMAC eh? Or what about the people desperately trying to find out where to purchase copies of the original EECH once they have seen how much better the modded EECH was than the newly released EECH2. What about Falcon 4? The newest version Falcon 4 Allied Force is based upon the hacked/modded Superpak version - and has been further extensively modded with the "Red Falcon" Mod. What about all the CFS3 nay-sayers who have been purcchasing copies so they can try out the Over Flanders Fields and Mediterranean Air Wars Mods? Or taking it one step further what about the popularity of THe Wings over Europe/Wings over Vietnam etc - all completely moddable?
I guess some "hacked" sims do sell after all...

2) Oleg stated categorically there would be no further resources devoted to 4.09 - thats why the code encryption is not being re-worked, no programming resouces whatsoever have been diverted from BOB-SOW

3) Oleg has stated categorically that he would not licence IL2 for development by third parties
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Old 12-10-2007, 10:05 PM
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1) What? Apart from LOMAC eh? Or what about the people desperately trying to find out where to purchase copies of the original EECH once they have seen how much better the modded EECH was than the newly released EECH2. What about Falcon 4? The newest version Falcon 4 Allied Force is based upon the hacked/modded Superpak version - and has been further extensively modded with the "Red Falcon" Mod. What about all the CFS3 nay-sayers who have been purcchasing copies so they can try out the Over Flanders Fields and Mediterranean Air Wars Mods? Or taking it one step further what about the popularity of THe Wings over Europe/Wings over Vietnam etc - all completely moddable?
I guess some "hacked" sims do sell after all...

2) Oleg stated categorically there would be no further resources devoted to 4.09 - thats why the code encryption is not being re-worked, no programming resouces whatsoever have been diverted from BOB-SOW

3) Oleg has stated categorically that he would not licence IL2 for development by third parties
1. Take a look at HL and tell me how many people you see flying Falcon 4 AF. Yeah, you and one other person. lol EECH2, how many are online with that? IL2 had/has the largest online flight sim community. I'm not sure how that will go now.

2. Oleg did state that there wouldn't be any resources devoted to 4.09. That doesn't mean, however, that he changed his mind on the subject due to the chaos going on now.

3. Oleg stated that third party development would be a possibility. He never said it would never happen. That may have changed now though.

At any rate, you or anyone else can't really dispute anything Ivan puts out on the forums. He's a well known, respectable person that is in the know. The fact that Oleg took leads off SOW to work on 4.09 speaks volumes of what he thinks about all of this. Now, I'm beginning to second guess a lot of my own opinions.
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Old 12-10-2007, 07:29 PM
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Gozr bragging.....
as usual as on some other forums with Gozr - lots of bragging - and a big nothing coming out of it...
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Old 12-10-2007, 07:33 PM
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1) Believe it or not.. 1946 still sells, but i am sure that will stop soon, if not already (who wants to buy hacked sim - raise your hands!)
who want's to buy a sim that they can now fly, fight, and bomb with the heavies which they couldn't before? - raise your hands!


i love PBY's, the only way i can fly one is if someone releases it as an addon. when that happens, i buy FSX (for the game engine) and then i get the PBY.

i see this example applying here. Many that want to fly the heavies will now have an excuse to go out and buy IL46 so they can fly them with thier buddies.

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Old 12-10-2007, 07:40 PM
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Same with you RAMA.. a problem? PM me..
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Old 12-10-2007, 10:09 PM
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who want's to buy a sim that they can now fly, fight, and bomb with the heavies which they couldn't before? - raise your hands!


i love PBY's, the only way i can fly one is if someone releases it as an addon. when that happens, i buy FSX (for the game engine) and then i get the PBY.

i see this example applying here. Many that want to fly the heavies will now have an excuse to go out and buy IL46 so they can fly them with thier buddies.

The one problem I see with flying the AI aircraft is that the FM was made for just that, AI to fly. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'd really like to know if there is a difference. I believe there is, however subtle it may be.
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