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Old 12-10-2007, 01:24 PM
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Interesting that this thread is even allowed here at the official 1C forum,when all talk of modding is not allowed at ubi.
1)Either Oleg does'nt care and is actually interested in some of the stuff being done,or
2)He is looking at what needs to be done to lock it down again.
Because of the time constraints with 4.09 personally I think option 1.
That's why some of the comments directed at me for at least letting discussion about the subject whyich like it or not is a fact are so ridiculous...
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:25 PM
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What are you talking about Baron? How can Oleg lose money from il2 because of modding?
The only way he could lose is from the no cd /no dvd files out there.I did not see so much complaints from everyone when they became public knowledge,all I saw was 'where can I get them'.
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:29 PM
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What are you talking about Baron? How can Oleg lose money from il2 because of modding?
The only way he could lose is from the no cd /no dvd files out there.I did not see so much complaints from everyone when they became public knowledge,all I saw was 'where can I get them'.


Selling the rights for ex. to 3:rd party developer in the future is pretty much out the window now...wouldnt u say?
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:32 PM
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I don't know. Was that Olegs plan all along,to open the game to modding anyway? So if that was the case then online would have died officially instead of ,if you believe them all here,unofficially.
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:35 PM
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I don't know. Was that Olegs plan all along,to open the game to modding anyway? So if that was the case then online would have died officially instead of ,if you believe them all here,unofficially.

Thats the whole point, we dont know anything about Olegs intentions in the future. Maby he DID intend for 3:rd party modding, mods sanctioned by him? Who knows....thats a moot point by now.

If he doesnt fix the code that is. IIRC he said he wouldnt because there isnt time or resources for it. This isnt Microsoft we are talking about.

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Old 12-10-2007, 02:25 PM
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Thats the whole point, we dont know anything about Olegs intentions in the future. Maby he DID intend for 3:rd party modding, mods sanctioned by him? Who knows....thats a moot point by now.
That would contradict everything he said across the year.
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Old 12-10-2007, 03:10 PM
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Did you know that by adjusting the specular settings like that mod does that it makes it easier to see planes at night or at dusk/dawn? If you have that mod and I dont and we are in a coop on opposing sides with no or very tight icons.... you will have an advantage over me because of that mod as you will be able to see me bette tnan I you..... this is the kindof stuff that has so many hackles up.... is that fair? What about in competuition where there is a night mission? So does that mean that like it or not inorer to be competitive I am forced to DL these mods as well? Is that right.. or is it wrong.. if for whatever reason I am opposed to doing this and you arent? A slippery slope my friend.
People who run 1024x768 with low settings have an advantage over me when it comes to seeing aircraft. I run 1680x1050 with max settings and according to everyone I should see dots worse then those running the lower res with lower settings. Now is this fair? Why should I have to reduce my settings just to be on par with the rest? I worked hard for the hardware I have so I can enjoy games in all there glory. Im not approving any sort of mod or anything but making a point that the sim has advantages already built in and should have been corrected long ago. Take trim on a slider, not everyone has hotas with sliders or can afford to run out and grab one, so already they are at a disadvantage.

We still have issues like this among others already built into the game that has been giving some players advantages over others for a long time. And they have been complained and whined about for a long time but now they are over shadowed because everyone is paranoid about a sound mod.

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Old 12-10-2007, 03:46 PM
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Rama -- Do you know that they don't have the altitude coding worked out, or are you just guessing?
Yes, I know.
And I also know the amount of time and effort to create a map. I was part of the dev of some of the maps.
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Old 12-10-2007, 04:23 PM
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I run 1680x1050 with max settings and according to everyone I should see dots worse then those running the lower res with lower settings. Now is this fair?
I don't know if thats all true or not. I read the same posts over at the zoo about how well dots can be seen at different resolutions. I run the game at 1920x1200 but I swear I can see the dots better now than I ever could at any previous resolution or video card/monitor setup. I've played it on 800x600 on upwards over the years but always had an absolute top quality monitor.
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Old 12-10-2007, 05:06 PM
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What are you talking about Baron? How can Oleg lose money from il2 because of modding?
The only way he could lose is from the no cd /no dvd files out there.I did not see so much complaints from everyone when they became public knowledge,all I saw was 'where can I get them'.

Allow me to answer that one for you Uhter...

1) Believe it or not.. 1946 still sells, but i am sure that will stop soon, if not already (who wants to buy hacked sim - raise your hands!)
2) Pulling progamming lead off SOW development - That`s not free either...
3) And possible sale of IL-2 to third party as already mentioned....


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