IL2 and Sound Modding

[stalkervision]

Without icons it is extreamly difficult to see aircraft at a distance in the game normally. Much worse then real life. Look at it this way. Is it also fair for some players to have higher resolution and bigger computer monitors to see planes a whole lot better in the distance or faster internet connections and much faster computers and video cards that make their planes perform a whole lot better and further then someone that can't afford these things?

Just my opinion. When I use to play Battlefied 1942 on a slower computer and with a slower internet connection I got my butt whipped regularly by people who could afford as good equiptment as computer companies made. Nothing fair about that either...

[stalkervision]

If everyone started off equally in the games you might have a point but this isn't the way it is.... You have the same options though buy a better system or download the improvments. Actually the downloads are free. The newer computer system isn't... The download is a much more fair option because of that IMO.

[DuxCorvan]

Well, that's a point... Isn't it also unfair to play online with Track-IR, and a good set of pedals-stick against people that can't use them?

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by stalkervision

so why not download it bearcat, you wuss ! It looks really nice imo.. If everyone has an opportunity to download these mods equally then what is the problem. It's that you choose not to isn't it?

Because like I said.. I refuse to talk out the side of my neck... I am waiting to hear more from Oleg & 1C on the matter.

[Avala]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Did you know that by adjusting the specular settings like that mod does that it makes it easier to see planes at night or at dusk/dawn? If you have that mod and I dont and we are in a coop on opposing sides with no or very tight icons.... you will have an advantage over me because of that mod as you will be able to see me bette tnan I you..... this is the kindof stuff that has so many hackles up.... is that fair? What about in competuition where there is a night mission? So does that mean that like it or not inorer to be competitive I am forced to DL these mods as well? Is that right.. or is it wrong.. if for whatever reason I am opposed to doing this and you arent? A slippery slope my friend.

Bearcat, I understand your concerns, but they are without base. I will not have advantage over you and I will not see you better then you can see me. Planes are not reflective (that is impossible in il2fb), and are not shining and glowing in the dark. In the dark you can see them only when there is moon of course, like till now was. What was done? Specular light “dot pitch” is decreased to value of 16 it was by default 4, and on some planes light intensity was raised very little. The result is darker planes but with better overall natural look (some of them are hopeless and in a fact now looking worse) The effect also is very depending on weather, sun settings, your quality settings, very much of skin used and above all of angle from which you are watching plane.

But let the picture speak for a thousand words.

All pics cropped not resized or edited. Map Normandy, time 13:30 weather: good. Graphic card Nvidia 6600LE, antialiasing 8X (using free utility NVHardpage). Credits and respect to skin artist and Oleg of course for this wonderful simulation

[Billfish]

Originally Posted by DuxCorvan

Well, that's a point... Isn't it also unfair to play online with Track-IR, and a good set of pedals-stick against people that can't use them?

Could be if all came into it believing all others did not.....Yet here it's assumed that to have those things is S.O.P....I have no TIR or pedals and probably a sub par stick and no hotas....Yet when I fly I assume all others do have the higher quality items, as the sim is designed with them in mind from the developers, YET it does not harm me as I have worked out my own system (JS/Mouse/Keyboard) to work well for me.

In kind those things simply enhance "that" persons play though giving them an edge debatable.........Yet in contrast if a single mod is able to be utilized by one, then a whole host of others, MANY most deffinately cheats now have the ability to be utilized as well and are. So in contrast INSTANTLY the curve shifts and to extreme degrees......

[stalkervision]

Originally Posted by Billfish

Could be if all came into it believing all others did not.....Yet here it's assumed that to have those things is S.O.P....I have no TIR or pedals and probably a sub par stick and no hotas....Yet when I fly I assume all others do have the higher quality items, as the sim is designed with them in mind from the developers, YET it does not harm me as I have worked out my own system (JS/Mouse/Keyboard) to work well for me.

In kind those things simply enhance "that" persons play though giving them an edge debatable.........Yet in contrast if a single mod is able to be utilized by one, then a whole host of others, MANY most deffinately cheats now have the ability to be utilized as well and are. So in contrast INSTANTLY the curve shifts and to extreme degrees......

As I see it you can choose to mod or not. Doesn't cost a thing. Many people can't choose to upgrade their computers. You can avoid the question by spinning the story any way that you like but a newer much faster system with a bigger monitor and all the perks is a REAL ADVANTAGE in on-line play.

and I really doubt people would be willing to put any handicaps whatever on their super duper top of the line systems to make it a real level playing field.

Better systems do enhance play Billfish. In this there is no doubt. I have gone online with sub-par systems and really good systems and the difference was like night and day.

[JG52Uther]

Well I just upgraded to a 22" lcd monitor from an old 17" crt. I see dots much easier now,and that makes me feel more of a 'cheat' than anything I could download off that site.

[RAF_Leigh]

i want that tripple head to go thingy to have 3 screens but that may make me feel like im am cheating

[stalkervision]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

Well I just upgraded to a 22" lcd monitor from an old 17" crt. I see dots much easier now,and that makes me feel more of a 'cheat' than anything I could download off that site.

exactly...