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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 06-24-2011, 11:44 PM
Thee_oddball Thee_oddball is offline
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Luthier,

I'm sorry but like many others I have supported CoD hard since its release, even to the derision of some of my friends, but this prediction is utterly depressing.

The only significant changes in this patch that affect fundamental playability are............. well, none.

Nothing in this patch addresses matters that fundamentally prevented the game being played on a sensible level and without sound the game cannot be played sensibly.

To say that the sound will take several months to fix will prevent you releasing into the USA or anywhere else until then. They would crucify you and probably consign CoD to the commercial dustbin.

I cannot think of a single fault that is damaging CoD more than this fundamental fault.

Surely you are not placing this problem into the lap of just one man for several months? Surely you have consigned this large scale sub-project to a team, perhaps including third party support as MG have done in the past?
+1 sorry to say plus i saw nothing about fixing the issue with logging off our servers
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Old 06-24-2011, 11:46 PM
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Trying to catch up to your post.

I know that it isn't actual gameplay. It is a benchmark and frame of reference. Your standard for graphics performance and mine are clearly different. I expect the BlackDeath track to run smooth and stutter free at 30+ fps at all times. That's my standard because that's what I have now in UP/46'. I'm not going to trade my graphics standard for better DM/CEM. It's not enough for me. I really had an expectation that this game would perform better graphics wise given the changes in technology the past 10 years. Maybe they need to go back to Open G/L. It always ran better than Direct X in 1946.
You are a little bit limited.

My standard in 46 Black Death is much higher than yours... But only a fool want that a CloD heavy track performs like old 46 track in the same hardware... Here I run BD in 46 with 60 fps... that's my standard, much higher than yours...

But I have the same "standard" than you in thinking in CloD... I fly in 46 with great performance in MP running BD with stutters, drops in FPS, etc... By ages! If you think just two seconds you'll see how stupid is your last post...
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Old 06-24-2011, 11:49 PM
LoBiSoMeM LoBiSoMeM is offline
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When someone posts a Cliffs of Dover Black Death FRAPS benchmark with 30 FPS as a minimum, I'll be impressed.

(crap, someone's just gonna make one up now, eh?)
With this crap VGA you have, you wont do that. I can assure.
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Old 06-24-2011, 11:53 PM
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Actually i'm glad they invested more in how the aircraft fly and operate than in the ability to run everything maxed out. It's easier to improve an engine's performance over time and gradually turn on dormant features, than introduce completely new game mechanics at a later date.

Lobi runs with original size textures and i'd risk a bet that's his main resource hog there.

I'm running it fine on two year old hardware: i7 920 @ 2.7 Ghz, Ati 4890 1GB and just 3 GB of RAM, win 7 64bit.

My settings are: 1680 x 1050 (native monitor resolution), roads/grass/shadows/vsync on, SSAO off, AAx2, building detail and forest on low, buildings amount unlimited (to get rid of the pop-up), land shading high and everything else on medium.

I consistently get 30-60 FPS (capped there due to Vsync), unless flying over London. Even over London though i have to fly at low altitude to get below 30 FPS and even so it's a steady 22 FPS in the stock QMB mission, unless i go below 400-500 feet. That's the only scenario where it gets the hiccups for me, skimming the rooftops over London.

In fact, since the recent beta and now with this patch i managed to increase my building amount to unlimited which i had set to medium before. This does gives me an occasional FPS drop the first time i'll spawn in a mission or when a chuck of textures are loading, but on average i get better and better performance with each patch, enabling me to even increase a graphics setting from time to time.


My only wish is that the bombers would get some love in the next patch because there's a few known issues with some of them and a couple are in need of a revised control scheme/logic when on the bomb run. That's pretty much the only thing i miss right now, some gameplay specific fixes, because it already runs as well as can be expected on my PC.


On a final note, that E-1 is a beast. It's not very good against bombers, but it chews up fighters like nobody's business with four of those fast firing MGs. I think it will become the prime air superiority platform for blue pilots online because its lower weight, high rate of fire and ample ammunition supply are ideal for properly hosing down enemy fighters and making a quick getaway.
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Old 06-25-2011, 12:00 AM
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You are a little bit limited.

My standard in 46 Black Death is much higher than yours... But only a fool want that a CloD heavy track performs like old 46 track in the same hardware... Here I run BD in 46 with 60 fps... that's my standard, much higher than yours...

But I have the same "standard" than you in thinking in CloD... I fly in 46 with great performance in MP running BD with stutters, drops in FPS, etc... By ages! If you think just two seconds you'll see how stupid is your last post...


Geeezus....I am talking about the minimum not the average. You know, when that FW190 crashes into that LA7 or whatever at around 1:45 in the BD track. I assure you, 90% of the time my game is running at 60 fps with vsync on. That's with an old 8600 GT that I underclocked! Fyi, under 30 fps is where the human eye starts to notice stutter...so as long as the minimum is ~30 or above in the benchmark, everything is peachy keen.

I see long stutters in your last vid and it isn't even a benchmark. I don't get those stutters in 46 BD track. But I guess that is your standard.
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Old 06-25-2011, 01:27 AM
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If we can't have MP then the AI needs toning down!

We can't play multi-player because the sound drops out.

All we have left is single-player. However the AI has become so infuriating that I'm having trouble enjoying this too now. I am very certain that the AI is more alert than before.

We need the 1946 QMB setting where we set AI to rookie, average, veteran, ace etc.

In previous versions of COD quick missions I used to find that one or two of the AI enemy were ultra-aware and would do their annoying evasive maneuvers all the way to the deck.

I would just ignore these guys and go for a dumber/less aware target, preferably one that was busy attacking a team mate. Now the dumber targets don't seem to exist for me. Every one of them is ultra-aware with their magical FM, even when they are busy they sense your attack and turn on their unrealistic rolling, and high G spiral dives.

Now pardon me for saying this but I'm very proud of my shooting ability but I'm struggling with the AI, they are tuned to react exactly at the point you have a perfect firing solution. I'm even tempted to say that they have your convergence settings loaded into their evasion algorithms.

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Old 06-25-2011, 01:41 AM
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I don't really play MP much so for me this latest patch seems to have done bugger all.

still terrible performance over land (despite my new machine) and AI still seems to do barrell rolls like an F-18.

really starting to get quite depressed about this game now and increasingly find myself drifting to other games.
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Old 06-25-2011, 02:03 AM
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hi all

Tested with latest patch,explosion and smoke came back when crashing...good!!
i get from 45-55 fps on smaller towns but stutters are there(buildings on very low),every time i enable trees(low)or grass(low)i see about 40-50 fps flying low above fields but stutters with 1 sec interval, when i go above 800-900 feet is smooth, (mirror in cockpit always off,sync on )
my resolution is 1600x900
I DO NOT agree when somebody say that u cannot get more performance from this sim unless u upgrade hardware bla bla bla,we are in 2011

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Old 06-25-2011, 03:42 AM
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Well I downloaded the steam update and it didn't break. That's good news. lol
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Old 06-25-2011, 04:26 AM
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Shadow flickering still an issue. No noticable performance gain noted but game was running OK on med settings before patch anyway. Game seems stable after @1hr testing.

My subjective view is that the current game isn't of a sufficent satisfactory quality for me to enjoy so no longer flying it. Will try it again when next updated.
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