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Old 06-17-2011, 11:08 AM
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If I can address the question of the number of Blenheim squadrons which were stocked with 100 octane.

Kurfurst had until the last few days said that there were only two squadrons and asked me to supply my evidence.

The following papers which he has seen before and quoted on recently make it clear that the four stations are the only stations to be fully fuelled with 100 octane. The paper makes it clear that these are the exception and that the norm must be to retain one tank of 87 octane for aircraft that are passing through.

Note 1 - all Blenheim units are to be equipped with 100 octane
Note 2 - only the four specified bases are to be only equipped with 100 octane
Note 3 - the 87 octane is for aircraft passing through not non operational flying

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Old 06-17-2011, 11:28 AM
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the 300 pixel wide text part will not be more detailed, just bigger
The native language of who is English, read it more easily sure...
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[QUOTE=Glider;298446]Kurfurst had until the last few days said that there were only two squadrons and asked me to supply my evidence.

Stop making things up and putting into other's mouths. As others have noted, it makes you look petty, petulant, and juvenile. Its the lowest form of arguement, when you have nothing worthwhile to offer.

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Note 1 - all Blenheim units are to be equipped with 100 octane
The paper does not say that. You have made it up.

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I would like to see the complete papers, not just snippets you wish to show.
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Old 06-17-2011, 03:22 PM
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Here's what the best Spitfire book (Morgan/Shacklady: Spitfire, the History), by far, has to say on the question.

Take note that it very well mentions the supply problems with the import of 100 octane from overseas, and also take note Glider is very well aware of this work, having shown this several times. Instead, he sells a story about 'hundreds' of books not mentioning a thing..

The relative lifespan of the engine (10-20 hours on +12 lbs vs 100 hours on +6 1/4 lbs) is also of interest.


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Kurfurst had until the last few days said that there were only two squadrons and asked me to supply my evidence.

Stop making things up and putting into other's mouths. As others have noted, it makes you look petty, petulant, and juvenile. Its the lowest form of arguement, when you have nothing worthwhile to offer.
Please see your posting 52 and 76 on this thread.
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Can anyone supply any information (apart from a pre war planning paper) that indicates that 100 Octane wasn't available to all of fighter Command.

The only one that I can think of is the posting from Pips which I have commented on in some detail and I cannot believe that anyone will nail their flags to that mast.

In the WW2aircraft forum Kurfurst did just that until awkward questions were asked such as:-
a) How do 30+ different squadrons share 125 aircraft
b) What happens about replacements
c) Why would a nation fighting for its life leave 350-400, 000 tons of high octane fuel sitting around unused when the changes to the aircraft were small and the impact in performance huge.

What evidence do they have remembering that every book both tactical and technical by every historian and every memoir supports the fact that it was supplied.

You can agree or disagree with what I and others have posted, lets see what evidence you can supply for us to agree or disagree.

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