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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 06-08-2011, 04:59 PM
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Bungay is a dick, period.

Very insightful...

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Old 06-08-2011, 05:06 PM
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Very insightful...

I know, I'm renown for my insightful reviews...

That's what several historians think of him, it's a sort of common knowledge in the sector, and the way he writes is the reason of this judgement. I never met him personally, but according to a close friend who met him at a book signing event he apparently fits the bill of the typical "we English won the war cos we're better, period" delusional individuals.
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I loved Bungay's The Most Dangerous Enemy. I've lost track of how many times I've read through it. I can't recommend it enough for anyone interested in the Battle of Britain. About a month ago I purchased and read through his Alamein, not because I have any great interest in the ground war (although it was more than that), just because I appreciated Bungay's writing. That's a pretty good read too - he didn't sugar coat that one either from the British/Commonwealth perspective.
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Old 06-08-2011, 05:56 PM
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Lonely Warrior. Jean Offenberg

I mention this book as it was the first book on the BoB I ever read, my well thumbed copy has long ago disapeared, however it lives long in my memory. Since then I have read many books on the subject but non have resonated with me as much as this one.
Its also good to remember how many pilots of other nationalities served within the RAF in those fateful days.
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Old 06-08-2011, 06:13 PM
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Lonely Warrior. Jean Offenberg

I mention this book as it was the first book on the BoB I ever read, my well thumbed copy has long ago disapeared, however it lives long in my memory. Since then I have read many books on the subject but non have resonated with me as much as this one.
Its also good to remember how many pilots of other nationalities served within the RAF in those fateful days.
Thanks for the recommendation! I hadn't heard of that book. I just ordered a used copy from AbeBooks - very inexpensive!
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Old 06-08-2011, 06:16 PM
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I know, I'm renown for my insightful reviews...

That's what several historians think of him, it's a sort of common knowledge in the sector, and the way he writes is the reason of this judgement. I never met him personally, but according to a close friend who met him at a book signing event he apparently fits the bill of the typical "we English won the war cos we're better, period" delusional individuals.
I was under the impression that his book was interesting. When I read it, if he stated his facts correctly, his thesis that the BoB wasn't a close call seemed plausible, or at least worth consideration.

Like I said, I didn't like him as a writer, maybe even as a person, but as a historian I got a good impression of him. Is the book wrong? Erroneous statements, lies? I am honestly asking, since I've mainly read good things about the book, and honestly don't recall getting the "we won 'os we're better" feeling when I read it.

Thanks for any further info!
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Old 06-08-2011, 06:23 PM
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Lonely Warrior is a must!!!
Sternjaeger hope you dont mind me asking but whats your age and where are you from?

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That's what several historians think of him, it's a sort of common knowledge in the sector, and the way he writes is the reason of this judgement. I never met him personally, but according to a close friend who met him at a book signing event he apparently fits the bill of the typical "we English won the war cos we're better, period" delusional individuals.
Then neither you nor your so called historians or your close friend have read the book thoroughly enough, as it's precisely that sort of propagandist claptrap that Bungay sets out to disprove, on both sides.

Nor would any Englishman, to my knowledge, end a sentence with the word 'period'. It's called a 'full stop' here.

'Periods' are something else entirely.

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Old 06-08-2011, 07:53 PM
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Bungay is a dick, period.
You really know how to draw attention to yourself don't you.

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Old 06-08-2011, 08:04 PM
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Bungay is a dick, period.
So is Christer Bergström but he does put out good books.
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